06-10-2014, 10:28 PM
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TexasTallest
Charlotte is not busier than every airport in Europe and Asia.That's just silly to even contemplate.
Beijing, Tokyo, Dubai, Hong Kong, Jakarta, Singapore, Guangzhou, Istanbul, Bangkok, Kuala Lumpur and Shanghai
are all busier than Charlotte in
total number of passengers enplaned and deplaned.
London, Paris, Frankfurt and Amsterdam are also busier than Charlotte in
total number of passengers enplaned and deplaned.
Also, Beijing is busier than Charlotte in
total aircraft movements.
What's sad for Houston is that metros smaller than Houston have higher passenger counts than IAH.
Denver, Charlotte, Las Vegas, Phoenix and Miami all move more people than IAH. Heck, Las Vegas, Charlotte, and Denver even beat IAH in terms of total aircraft movements. What is Houston doing wrong? It has huge skyscrapers AND the only two supertalls in the state of Texas!
Not sure why you keep posting false data, Texas Tallest.
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06-10-2014, 10:57 PM
Location: Austin/Houston
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gsupstate
When the big city of New York doesn't even produce them, it means nothing in terms of a city's overall importance as far as I'm concerned.
Dallas and Charlotte might have us beat in terms of airport passenger traffic, but where's their port? At least Houston can say they have both.
06-10-2014, 11:08 PM
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Dallas and Charlotte might have us beat in terms of airport passenger traffic, but where's their port? At least Houston can say they have both.
Air
PORT . There's our port.
06-10-2014, 11:16 PM
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American Airlines begins Shanghai, Hong Kong flights from D/FW
By TERRY MAXON Staff Writer
tmaxon@dallasnews.com
Published: 10 June 2014 10:59 PM
Updated: 10 June 2014 11:01 PM
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“Just in the short term, we’re talking about $360 million in economic impact. That’s a lot of money,” Dallas Mayor Mike Rawlings said when American announced last October that it would launch the routes.
06-11-2014, 01:10 AM
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BCB
AirPORT . There's our port.
lol, at least you didnt claim that "inland port" as your port. Houston has the 2nd busiest port in the country, along with IAH, and Hobby.
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gsupstate
Unless you are calling the world one region, DFW is not a regional airport. 4th busiest in US. 9th busiest in the world. 2nd largest US Hub (American) after Delta in ATL. Glad you do recognize how perfectly DFW is situated though......the same thing many companies recognize, ie: the moving of Toyota.
DFW gets its a lot of its numbers from regional flights and domestic transfers.. heck, DFW used to have "Regional" in its name.
and youve got to be kidding me. DFW gets one REGIONAL corporate relocation and suddenly you would think the entire world is moving to DFW with the way you guys have been hyping up this Toyota relocation.
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BCB
Charlotte is not busier than every airport in Europe and Asia.That's just silly to even contemplate.
Beijing, Tokyo, Dubai, Hong Kong, Jakarta, Singapore, Guangzhou, Istanbul, Bangkok, Kuala Lumpur and Shanghai
are all busier than Charlotte in
total number of passengers enplaned and deplaned.
London, Paris, Frankfurt and Amsterdam are also busier than Charlotte in
total number of passengers enplaned and deplaned.
Also, Beijing is busier than Charlotte in
total aircraft movements.
What's sad for Houston is that metros smaller than Houston have higher passenger counts than IAH.
Denver, Charlotte, Las Vegas, Phoenix and Miami all move more people than IAH. Heck, Las Vegas, Charlotte, and Denver even beat IAH in terms of total aircraft movements. What is Houston doing wrong? It has huge skyscrapers AND the only two supertalls in the state of Texas!
Not sure why you keep posting false data, Texas Tallest.
how do i "keep" posting false data?
if there is anything false about that article, take it up with the news site.
sheshh, its like no one from Dallas understands geography.. Houston metro is bordered on one side by a GULF. and is a few hundred miles from an INTERNATIONAL BORDER.
thats like the equivalent to a city like Seattle, or San Diego (though SD is in the most populous state, near the 2nd most populous city) geographically speaking. of course our domestic market isnt going to be anywhere near DFWs, who is completely surrounded by land for over 300 miles on all sides, and much closer to the center of the country. all of those listed airports are very regional based like DFW and have a high number of domestic transfers.
06-11-2014, 07:50 AM
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Y'all really get off to the total number of strangers that had to be annoyed with a layover in y'alls airports...
06-11-2014, 08:10 AM
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Y'all really get off to the total number of strangers that had to be annoyed with a layover in y'alls airports...
lmao.. seriously.
06-11-2014, 08:17 AM
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looks like DFW has gotten 1 true corporate HQ relocation this year.. Ameriflight.
06-11-2014, 08:21 AM
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People here are either willingly misunderstanding the places that IAH and DFW play in the Texas transportation system or are just misrepresenting the facts.
In terms of pure origin and destination traffic (that is, the number of people that want to travel to or from each airport, no connections included), the Houston area is generally a stronger market to most international destinations in the world. There are notable exceptions - the DFW area has higher demand to several African countries, South Korea, India and a few scattered European destinations. Houston is much stronger to Nigeria, most of Europe, the Middle East (by a pretty large margin), most of Asia, and most of Central and South America. DFW actually (surprisingly) is a slightly stronger market to Mexico. I'll see if I can find some good solid data to back what I'm saying up, but this is well known throughout the industry.
The DFW area has stronger domestic O/D demand, but not by the amount that's implied given the difference in total domestic passenger numbers between the two airports. The real story with DFW is that its location is key to these numbers. It is located in literally the perfect place to serve as an east-west intercontinental hub. It's far enough from ORD to not conflict with AA's hub there and it's far enough north to serve as a reasonable connection point for most east-west flights. Even an itinerary like SEA-DFW-DCA works much better than SEA-IAH-DCA. If the airport was located even 100 miles further south it's competitive position would be far worse and it's passenger totals would suffer.
Again, while there is a local component that contributes to the total advantage in passenger numbers that DFW has over IAH, it's not the primary driver. It is, however, primarily local demand that's the reason that IAH has the international flights it does. The reason DFW is getting all of these international flights now is due to the fact that the domestic hub has finally been built up to a point where it has a critical mass to be able to support the flights. Think about Atlanta. Busiest airport in the world, and has more international traffic than both DFW and IAH. Does anyone really think Atlanta has more O/D international demand than Houston? Absolutely not. They probably don't have more international demand than DFW either, but they can support more traffic because they are connecting people from all over the place. AA has built DFW into a mini-ATL at this point and believes they can support the new flights such as DFW-HKG and DFW-PVG. Time will tell on that.
DFW and IAH are not the same monster. IAH has shrunk in total flights in the last few years (nearly all domestic cuts) because United doesn't need to use it to connect everyone like Continental had to do. However, international traffic has STILL grown despite the lack of a critical amount of feed. The "international gap" shrunk last year but I predict it will grow or stabilize this year since IAH has gotten a lot of new international service this year as well (PEK, extra NRT flight, MUC, SVG, ICN). We'll see next year.
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BCB
What's sad for Houston is that metros smaller than Houston have higher passenger counts than IAH.
Oh come on.
Denver - due to the fact it is literally the only major air facility to serve a huge physical part of the country. A lot of those movements and passengers are due to frequent flights to commuter markets in the surrounding states that are served by no one else. Also has high tourist travel levels.
Charlotte - like DFW, this is primarily a location thing. CLT is the only airport that can reasonably serve the southeast market other than ATL and is perfectly positioned as a connecting airport. It also has the lowest per-passenger costs in the industry, which allowed US Airways to leverage that as a way to make money despite the small local market. I think in three years or so CLT will be a bit smaller though since the new AA can flow some CLT traffic over ORD, PHL, DFW, and MIA.
Las Vegas - tremendous tourist traffic. Before the recession LAS was in DFW's territory for total passengers served despite no real connection activity. Pretty much pure O/D. So who does that reflect poorly on?
Phoenix - this has only recently become the case and is moreso because United cut domestic capacity after the merger. Phoenix will be gone as a hub in three years in my opinion because it may be the weakest existing hub in the U.S. it has zero international demand and its domestic O/D demand is reliant on connections.
Miami - has about the same number of international passengers as an IAH + 2 DFWs. You're surprised that it's in front of Houston in total passengers given the number of people that also fly to Miami as a tourist or business destination domestically?
IAH is never going to be the domestic airport or able to connect as many people as DFW is due to the location. It is not located in a good place to handle domestic connections, and international connections are a pain in general at US airports.
DFW is never going to be the international airport IAH is due to the lack of O/D demand to many places. It's economy is less internationally based and much more reliant on domestic flying.
It is what it is.
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Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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