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Old 06-20-2016, 08:20 AM
 
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There will be more and more people living north of 60°N and South of 50° S (all the way down from South America to the Antarctica Peninsula) as the earth gets more and more overpopulated (10 bn inhabitants at the end of this century) and finally governments realize that it's less difficult to colonize these places than the Moon, Mars or the Exoplanets (they still think it's feasible , but Peak Oil -and Hawking's death hahahahaha-will kill those projects)
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Old 06-20-2016, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Finland
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I think Lerwick could be a large city.... Hawaii of the subarctic
More like Cape Cod of the subarctic. AFAIK Hawaii is hot during summers.
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Old 06-20-2016, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Broward County, FL
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More like Cape Cod of the subarctic. AFAIK Hawaii is hot during summers.
Only winter matters, don't cha know?
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Old 06-20-2016, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Juneau, AK + Puna, HI
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.. AFAIK Hawaii is hot during summers.
Not really. In Hilo, hottest months are Aug and Sep, when average high is 83F and average daily mean is 76.
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Old 06-20-2016, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Broward County, FL
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Not really. In Hilo, hottest months are Aug and Sep, when average high is 83F and average daily mean is 76.
True, although Hilo is excessively wet and an 83 F high could still be considered "hot" by some people. Honolulu has an average high in the upper 80s in the warmest months. I think that's warm enough to be "hot".
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Old 06-20-2016, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Finland
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Only winter matters, don't cha know?
Still... Ok, so I go snowbirding to Lerwick in January. I leave the -1C high frigid Turku (which is the equivalent of Philadelphia in the US). So I have to find a city which has temps similar to Dallas, but is gloomier and windier than Philly.

Do you think this would be a good idea?


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Not really. In Hilo, hottest months are Aug and Sep, when average high is 83F and average daily mean is 76.
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True, although Hilo is excessively wet and an 83 F high could still be considered "hot" by some people. Honolulu has an average high in the upper 80s in the warmest months. I think that's warm enough to be "hot".
Ok, but maybe a nice summer vacation still. I leave Turku/Philadelphia, it can be anytime from June through August, IDK when I'll have my summer holiday. So I fly to... Vancouver! But it must be a damn gloomy summer there, and windy. Ok, I won't need a coat, but doesn't sound like Hawaii. You must be from Yuma to think that Honolulu's or even Hilo's nice cool summers are refreshing.

BTW, Lerwick's all-time record high is 0.5C colder than Turku's average July high.

So, welcome to Cape Cod of the 60th parallel!
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Old 06-20-2016, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Trondheim, Norway - 63 N
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If Deneb78 would like to avoid the cold winters at that latitude, the Norwegian coastal areas around 60N are about as mild as Lerwich in winter, and have warmer summers - like Slåtterøy:http://www.city-data.com/forum/weath...erages-15.html
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Old 06-20-2016, 12:12 PM
 
Location: In transition
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Still... Ok, so I go snowbirding to Lerwick in January. I leave the -1C high frigid Turku (which is the equivalent of Philadelphia in the US). So I have to find a city which has temps similar to Dallas, but is gloomier and windier than Philly.

Do you think this would be a good idea?






Ok, but maybe a nice summer vacation still. I leave Turku/Philadelphia, it can be anytime from June through August, IDK when I'll have my summer holiday. So I fly to... Vancouver! But it must be a damn gloomy summer there, and windy. Ok, I won't need a coat, but doesn't sound like Hawaii. You must be from Yuma to think that Honolulu's or even Hilo's nice cool summers are refreshing.

BTW, Lerwick's all-time record high is 0.5C colder than Turku's average July high.

So, welcome to Cape Cod of the 60th parallel!
My comment was tongue in cheek but you didn't get it.
It's all relative. There is a big difference between 5.5 and -2.1 between Lerwick and Turku in the coldest month. That's 7.6C difference. If I add 7 6C warmer to my coldest month I get 13.9 which is like a San Francisco winter... huge difference. Anyone who doesn't like winter would prefer San Francisco over Vancouver.
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Old 06-20-2016, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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If Deneb78 would like to avoid the cold winters at that latitude, the Norwegian coastal areas around 60N are about as mild as Lerwich in winter, and have warmer summers - like Slåtterøy:http://www.city-data.com/forum/weath...erages-15.html
There is also st. Petersburg which has one of the longest warm season and not a terribly cold winter either 60N. It's got 3 months of avg highs > 20C and 5 months avg highs > 15C and 5 months of record highs > 30C
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sain...rsburg#Climate
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Old 06-20-2016, 01:03 PM
 
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That is true but it still can be done. If not than Yakutsk shouldn't exist, especially considering how tall/large many of it's buildings are.

https://www.google.com/maps/@62.0332...7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@62.0343...7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@62.0372...7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@62.0309...7i13312!8i6656
Permafrost is very limiting. Russia has more oil by far than Saudi Arabia but it's in the arctic, hence difficult to develop adequate infrastructure to obtain it. Yakutsk is not all permafrost. Cold winters, yes, but permafrost is not everywhere there. Not where those buildings are - you can be sure of that.
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