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Partly because traditional reasons. Because the area was so sparsely populated before, there is not much infrastructure there, work or housing. I don't see any reason why anyone would move there now, unless they want to be in total wilderness.
Oulu in Finland is one of the few exceptions. It had 37k inhabitants in 1950 and today the area has 200k.
And most of those are employed by the companies there that produce 78% of the world's ice cubes.
You and me both! I got depressed just looking at it. The other ones are really nice, though. I especially liked the birches (trees with white trunks) along the roadsides; they look amazing.
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Florida and Texas have plenty of farmland though, Nevada and Arizona are barren. People would not move down there so much if not for AC.
Hate to bust your bubble, but in AZ at least we have millions of acres of farmland between Phoenix and Yuma along the Gila River Valley, it is possible because of irrigation, it is the third biggest year round farming region in the US after California's Central Valley (#1) and Imperial Valley (#2)
Hate to bust your bubble, but in AZ at least we have millions of acres of farmland between Phoenix and Yuma along the Gila River Valley, it is possible because of irrigation, it is the third biggest year round farming region in the US after California's Central Valley (#1) and Imperial Valley (#2)
And which taxpayers are subsidizing that irrigation?
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And which taxpayers are subsidizing that irrigation?
Federal taxes I imagine, since the California agriculture is supported by irrigation as well, as the Central Valley ranges from semi arid to desert and the Imperial Valley is desert same as the Gila River Valley in AZ.
These areas were chosen because they have year round growing seasons with limited frost and no killing freezes, along with lots of flat, available land
Federal taxes I imagine, since the California agriculture is supported by irrigation as well, as the Central Valley ranges from semi arid to desert and the Imperial Valley is desert same as the Gila River Valley in AZ.
These areas were chosen because they have year round growing seasons with limited frost and no killing freezes, along with lots of flat, available land
I am not crazy about this arrangement. I am a New Yorker and pay high progressive taxes to subsidize uneconomic activity elsewhere. Arizona and Wyoming have gleaming, empty 75 mph Interstates and we get the rickety, jammed Cross Bronx Expressway. Our farmers pay their own way and these farmers don't.
What's wrong with this picture? Plenty. Our Congressmen and Senators are great at being liberal with our money and don't return much to us. Even security spending as a direct result of 911 is disproportionately allocated to states that are very unlikely to be targets.
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I am not crazy about this arrangement. I am a New Yorker and pay high progressive taxes to subsidize uneconomic activity elsewhere. Arizona and Wyoming have gleaming, empty 75 mph Interstates and we get the rickety, jammed Cross Bronx Expressway. Our farmers pay their own way and these farmers don't.
What's wrong with this picture? Plenty. Our Congressmen and Senators are great at being liberal with our money and don't return much to us. Even security spending as a direct result of 911 is disproportionately allocated to states that are very unlikely to be targets.
CA and AZ agriculture feed most of this country, and ALMOST ALL of CANADA's produce comes from AZ and CA, so it is money well spent
You can extend it...up to a point. That's what I do. 4-6 weeks in spring, 4 weeks in fall. That adds two months of extra growing season, but in a place with a 3 month growing season, a 5-6 month growing season is still short.
Why isnt the south producing a large part of the nation's produce? The technology exists now to prevent damage from most hard freezes with a little warning , drought seems much worse. i have seen some models that show them to be part of very long drought cycles in the west .Especially dealing with water and especially precipitation required to deal with drought , it is much less effort dealing with generational hard freeze,
Drought and agriculture in california is much more expensive than a very rare hard freeze, the question is why are foodies so obsessed with "fresh produce and fresh food " and they eat stuff shipped and many times frozen from mexico and california, much fresher farm to fork when buying locally
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CA and AZ agriculture feed most of this country, and ALMOST ALL of CANADA's produce comes from AZ and CA, so it is money well spent
We do have local produce in the summer too you know
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