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Actually I expect the unemployment rate to run between 8% to 12% from now on. Most likely the base rate will be 8 to 9% this will be the new normal. The underemployed rate will run between 60% to 70%. We moving to a low wage service economy. We have 25 million workers underemployed in the US today. I expect that number to grow to between 75 to 100 million over the next 30 years. When they say we are becoming a service economy most of these jobs are low paying. Most will fall into the area of part time and temp work. Freelancers and contractors will also be a big part of the future job market as well.
I believe you are seeing the worst case scenerio. The downside is there, but things change. You often talk about all these machines taking over jobs that used to be done by people. Well, you always need people to service the machines, maybe that would be a good career to pursue. How about the guy installing the machines? The possibilities are there, but most employers will complain about the lack of young people who actually want to put in a good day's work. If you can do better, there are always folks out there in need of reliable folks. Whiners and complainers never last long though. Be the best worker they've ever had, and you will have at the very least, a good reference.
The HR Dept may be telling you this to get rid of you. I, on the other hand have years of experience and they tell me I have too much experience. They will use whatever suits the circumstance to get rid of who ever they don't want to hire.
Maybe I am but the big picture looks that bad. Both parties have sold us out business is looking only for short term profits. Driving down wages and cutting workers is the future. We on a race to the bottom and we will lose. The Germans look long term tools machines whatever they make they make a top end product. We try to compete on only price and let China flood our market with everything. China makes 5 year plans on growth what industries to take over ect. The Germans have big unions socialism all these bad things to your everyday person in the US. So why are they better off? It is real simple they have leadership we have none. We can not even pass a budget the last 3 years. And they do not let everyone flood their markets. Andy I do hope I am way off base with my posts. But sadly I do not think I am.
Maybe I am but the big picture looks that bad. Both parties have sold us out business is looking only for short term profits. Driving down wages and cutting workers is the future. We on a race to the bottom and we will lose. The Germans look long term tools machines whatever they make they make a top end product. We try to compete on only price and let China flood our market with everything. China makes 5 year plans on growth what industries to take over ect. The Germans have big unions socialism all these bad things to your everyday person in the US. So why are they better off? It is real simple they have leadership we have none. We can not even pass a budget the last 3 years. And they do not let everyone flood their markets. Andy I do hope I am way off base with my posts. But sadly I do not think I am.
While a large chunk of the growth jobs over the next couple of decades are low paying, we used to be a nation that realized one or two generations is short-term, and we thought longer term. No one anywhere can project longer term accurately. Maybe you'll be correct; maybe not. In the meantime, as andywire as stated well, our focus should be on being excellent relative to the modern world - not average. As Thomas Friedman said well, "The days of average being adequate are gone".
then how are the inexperienced people going to get hired at places like Grocery Stores, Fast Food-Places such as McDonald's, Retailers such as Target, Walmart, Entry-Level, Customer Service jobs like that
then how are the inexperienced people going to get hired at places like Grocery Stores, Fast Food-Places such as McDonald's, Retailers such as Target, Walmart, Entry-Level, Customer Service jobs like that
unfortuneately volunteer, it sucks but it is what it is
then how are the inexperienced people going to get hired at places like Grocery Stores, Fast Food-Places such as McDonald's, Retailers such as Target, Walmart, Entry-Level, Customer Service jobs like that
They aren't now.
What you have is people working one or two steps below their field. So people doing those jobs probably come out of phone customer service and that sort of work. They get hired for food service now.
The people who used to manage in companies are now working managers. That means for a whole 12 dollars an hour they get to be hands on and MANAGE a bunch of people. I saw this with my own eyes/an ad for warehouse manager. 12 dollars an hour.
They aren't now.
What you have is people working one or two steps below their field. So people doing those jobs probably come out of phone customer service and that sort of work. They get hired for food service now.
The people who used to manage in companies are now working managers. That means for a whole 12 dollars an hour they get to be hands on and MANAGE a bunch of people. I saw this with my own eyes/an ad for warehouse manager. 12 dollars an hour.
the people who can't even get hired at McDonald's, man, i really feel their pain
Sunny it is just part of the whole do more with less movement. Before you may have had managers over every department. Now one guy manages 4 departments you get rid of four well paid jobs good for the bottom line. Or you cut 4 or 5 guys from middle management now he is a working manager. Just him and the entry level guys. He has to keep the flow of work going their no guys in the middle anymore. His hands have to be in everything or it all falls apart
They are looking for an unarmed security guard over here. 5 years experience required and for $10.00 per hour.
I can show you the listing by PM if you want to see it.
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Originally Posted by annerk
Unarmed security is customer service. The guys at the gatehouse in my neighborhood are unarmed. Their duties:
Greet residents with a wave and a smile
Open the gate for USPS/UPS/FedEx in their respective logo'ed company vehicles/uniforms, emergency vehicles, and the water/electric/cable/gas company people when they present appropriate ID.
Greet guests--if they are on a residents "permanent guest list," verify ID and admit them. If they are on the temporary guest list, write down ID info and admit them. If they are not on a guest list, call the homeowner to verify the guest is expected. If yes, treat like temporary guest list. If no, turn the vehicle away.
Notify police of any suspicious activities they observe.
So tell me, why should someone who has less duties and responsibility than the average receptionist be paid more than $10 an hour? (Guard house has heat/ac, color cable TV, a roof over where cars pull up so when it's raining the guard doesn't get wet, private bathroom, mini-fridge, uniforms are provided. Pretty cushy job in my opinion.)
I was extremely surprised that no one ever followed up on this. The point is that why in the world would you need to have five years of experience to do that? And if five years of experience is the real requirement then how can the pay only be $10/hourly? This security guard opening says that it is not uncommon for an entry-level college graduate to be under-qualified for even the most basic opening that is paying $10/hourly. There are lots of recent grads who'd take a $10/hourly job while continuing to network for a better job and doing volunteer projects on weekends to build their resume for their ideal position. Maybe that's why they added the crazy five years of experience requirement; they know that if they don't hire someone who has been committed to security for X years the person will leave as soon as they catch a break in their real field of choice.
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