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Old 01-19-2013, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Murrieta California
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Originally Posted by Kenneth-Kaunda View Post
all those people who say they would give it their all, regardless of pay - I say BS!

hardly anyone would take a drop to $3/hr and keep up the good work for any length of time.

It's just right wing management speak.
Believe it or not, there are people that actually take pride in doing a good job regardless of the pay. Not everybody is a left wing slacker.
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Old 01-19-2013, 01:52 PM
 
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I've been working for low wages since I re-entered the workforce after raising my children. The discipline, skill, and education it took to teach three children at home (home-schoolers), one who graduated and joined the military, and another who is now in gifted/talented and all honors, way beyond her grade-level, (the other) who learned to read at 3; these are discounted, treated as if they did not mean anything. The work it took to run a home business with a spouse, run a happy, healthy household, and run a small farm matters nothing at all to the 20-somethings who interview me for jobs, who scrutinize me as if I were a cockroach because of my dated and modest clothing, and insult me by offering to permit me to use the car I pay for in order to drive long distances and work for their company for 8 dollars an hour. I think I would not give my best to those who don't pay for or deserve it.

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Re-entering the workforce is an insulting title to a mislabeled situation. I worked my ass off during all those years I wasn't drawing a check from some company who saw me only as a number.
DITTO

There is so much disrespect for those of us who chose to stay home (not because we necessarily wanted too but BECAUSE of the low wages that did not cover daycare and such costs), its not funny. A criminal has an easier time re-entering the work force than a stay at home mom!
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Old 01-19-2013, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Ostend,Belgium....
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That's true! It's pityfull that crime pays. Yet someone who works like crazy has to go get foodstamps.
And how often have I heard "oh you don't work" being said to someone who stays home, raises kids and takes care of a husband and house? So many hard working people get no respect whatsoever and those who hardly lift a finger get all the money. High wages don't mean you're smart or better. I am one of those who works hard no matter what I get paid. It's not all about money. I was a housewife and am now a volunteer and I worked and got paid. I take pride in it all.
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Old 01-19-2013, 03:09 PM
 
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DITTO

There is so much disrespect for those of us who chose to stay home (not because we necessarily wanted too but BECAUSE of the low wages that did not cover daycare and such costs), its not funny. A criminal has an easier time re-entering the work force than a stay at home mom!
Why should anyone care that you raised little Johnny and it was hard? The company is paying you for your skills. Unless you can prove to them that raising a kid somehow made you more qualified than anyone else your experience is worthless in that context.
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Old 01-19-2013, 03:34 PM
 
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Why should anyone care that you raised little Johnny and it was hard? The company is paying you for your skills. Unless you can prove to them that raising a kid somehow made you more qualified than anyone else your experience is worthless in that context.
Staying home does NOT equal loosing ANY skills! its not like we're brain dead! It is insulting that someone would even assume that.
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Old 01-19-2013, 04:02 PM
 
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I make less than 13,000 for the full time teacher's aide job I'm doing right now. That's for 37 weeks, so I make about 8.78 an hour for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week. That's also with a bachelors degree I got back in 2005. Big money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Old 01-19-2013, 04:16 PM
 
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I have and I would. Different work is a different kind of hard. Honestly, after my degree the work was more with my brain, lots of paper work...Which to me is infinitely harder than work that involves physical labor.
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Old 01-19-2013, 05:54 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Kenneth-Kaunda
all those people who say they would give it their all, regardless of pay - I say BS!

hardly anyone would take a drop to $3/hr and keep up the good work for any length of time.

It's just right wing management speak.

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Believe it or not, there are people that actually take pride in doing a good job regardless of the pay. Not everybody is a left wing slacker.
tell me then, which people?

Would you take a pay cut to $3 hr and still take pride and give it your all.

or does this only apply to other people?
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:49 PM
 
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Staying home does NOT equal loosing ANY skills! its not like we're brain dead! It is insulting that someone would even assume that.
If you weren't so defensive you might actually grasp the point here. You have a gap in your experience that other candidates don't. If you can't offset that gap in some way, why should anyone hire you?
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Murrieta California
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Staying home does NOT equal loosing ANY skills! its not like we're brain dead! It is insulting that someone would even assume that.
First of all it is "losing", not "loosing".

Nobody is insinuating that anybody is brain dead. It is just a matter that employers pay for skiils that are directly applicable to their business. Staying at home is not likely to develop skills that an employer would be interested in.
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