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Of course some kids answer they are non-believers but in a climate where religion is supposed to at the very least respected, some find that saying god does not exist is disrespectful to their religious friends. When you are a teen it is just easier to say you are Catholic even if your family is totally lapsed like most people here.
I have teens and it is interesting to see religious consciousness creeping back, as kids discuss it way more these days. As in peer pressure à la "I am Religion X, what are you?"
We never talked about religion when I was growing up in the 80s and 90s.
I never did, but these days there is a lot of group identity. Everybody has to be something. Individuality is out the door.
It seems you do not understand figures of speech. This is the 3rd time I see this. No big deal!
No, you post your versions of what other people have written, but change the meaning of what they have written. You do it often, and you need to stop. And every time you do it, some of us are going to point it out.
You shouldn't be editorializing other people's comments to make it look like they are saying something different.
If I migrated to a country that is majority Jewish I would do the when in Israel do as Israelites.
No, you wouldn't, and I say that from experience as an immigrant myself who sees the immigrants that went before me and those that came after me. There is nothing truer than 'Birds of a feather, flock together.' The British did it in their colonies and the French, Dutch and Spanish did it in theirs. The British are doing it in Spain as we speak, as are the Russians, Chinese, French, Germans and Dutch that have moved here - just like the Spanish that have moved to the UK to live and work have formed 'colonies' where they all live and socialise together - because that is what 'birds of a feather' do, and it is what you would do also.
So don't give us that old tripe about striding out and integrating because you wouldn't. Your great-grandchildren will be here before you will see any sign of integration in your line.
No, you wouldn't, and I say that from experience as an immigrant myself who sees the immigrants that went before me and those that came after me. There is nothing truer than 'Birds of a feather, flock together.' The British did it in their colonies and the French, Dutch and Spanish did it in theirs. The British are doing it in Spain as we speak, as are the Russians, Chinese, French, Germans and Dutch that have moved here - just like the Spanish that have moved to the UK to live and work have formed 'colonies' where they all live and socialise together - because that is what 'birds of a feather' do, and it is what you would do also.
So don't give us that old tripe about striding out and integrating because you wouldn't. Your great-grandchildren will be here before you will see any sign of integration in your line.
OK, you have a point. I agree expats flock together. However, as an immigrant I would not expect the locals to change their culture so I would not be offended. I guess I did not make my point clear.
However, I would make an effort to understand the local culture and acquire their customs. But, I agree, some may do it differently.
Good for you. (good post by the way, Raffs) but here is where religion comes in. There is going to be a tendency of immigrant groups to huddle together to live the way they are used to and protect their cultural identity. Where there is strict religious control, this tendency to resist integration is reinforced.
All atheists are agnostic atheists just as all theists are agnostic theists. (Though they may claim to to 'Know'.
'New' atheism isn't a different kind of atheism but the old one that speaks out and is unapologetically evangelical, frankly.
Militant' doesn't offend me. i consider myself 'Militant' mbyt 'Fundamentalist' is either meaningless because there is no atheist dogma to be fundamentaist about. of course the term may be used as an pejorative epithet implying that we are intolerant and even violent. That is simply smear.
''Good grief. have you read and understood nothing of why we say we are outspoken, militant and are trying to push a campaign forward? if there's anyone who knows only his own side of the case, (and persistently mistaken, at that) it's you.
They don't; there is no such thing. There are atheist activists, even militant atheists (given careful definition of what that means) but atheist fundamentalism (apart from a smeary equating with terrorism) is a misnomer.
You seem to make a lot of progress, and then, damn' pop up making the same errors again. Are you actually Vic as one poster thought?
Thank you kind sir. I don't doubt the bolded passages will work well, quotemined as evidence of how we Militant atheists are latent Stalinists working to exterminate all Christians and send them to labour camps.
Ok, you are not Vic. He was a professed atheist who was one of the most powerful posters pf religious apologetics we have seen in a long while. Had a penchant for 'Philosophical' arguments (and authorities) and an entrenched 'assume Theism is true until 100% disproved' debating mindset - whatever he claimed.
However, I would make an effort to understand the local culture and acquire their customs. But, I agree, some may do it differently.
Would you? If you moved to Spain would you go to bull-fights? Would you have your supper at mid-night and your lunch at 4pm? Would you go to Spanish bars and sit there like a lemon because you can't speak the language? Would you eat your food drenched in salt? Would you eat food cold food when it's supposed to be hot? Or would you go to American enclaves were they spoke your language and ate the food you liked, served the beer that you are used to and played the games you like? Don't bother to answer. I know the answer There are hundreds of Spanish customs that you would reject in favour of your own comfortable customs.
...and on top of that, depending on where you go, you will ALWAYS be seen as an 'outsider', no matter how well you try to integrate or no matter how well you speak the language. That's just the way it is amongst 'birds'.
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