Despite Opening Week at New Stadium Braves Average Attenence Already Below 6 (of 20) Complete Years at Turner Field (Atlanta: new home, vs.)

[jsvh]

1) $500k an acre is not at all a fire-sale price. I mean, you couldn't sell a half acre of land for $250K in that area while the Braves were there even if it had a house on it. In fact many of the houses were going for less than $150k.

2) All those Ga Tech Student highrises in Midtown seem to be doing fine. I am not too worried about it. But I guess we will see.

[primaltech]

Dude, all you ever do is hate on where I live, and it bothers me. You start 20 threads a day constantly bashing the area where I live. So, I'm sorry if, after reading all your posts, I eventually say something in any way critical of the city, or one particular neighborhood in it. I always praise the city in many of my other posts. I like Atlanta apparently a lot more than you like Cobb.

And as far as "Good riddance to the Braves", for a lot of the members of this forum (including some who live inside city limits), they moved closer, not away. For me, they moved a whole lot closer. I've never lived this close to a stadium before.

I'm not even a fan of the Braves. They suck. I hate their ownership and everything that the team and the franchise has become. I find them sad. But, you know if you're going to sit here and constantly attack my county and my neighborhood, and the developments here, then yes, I'm going to defend it, and I might have something critical to say about your area in return.

[evannole]

Originally Posted by jsvh

1) $500k an acre is not at all a fire-sale price. I mean, you couldn't sell a half acre of land for $250K in that area while the Braves were there even if it had a house on it. In fact many of the houses were going for less than $150k.

2) All those Ga Tech Student highrises in Midtown seem to be doing fine. I am not too worried about it. But I guess we will see.

Agree that most of the houses in the area weren't worth much of anything until recently, but a contiguous parcel of this size that is slated for redevelopment is quite another matter. I think it was a very, very good deal for GSU and the developer in question.

Yes, the student dorms near Tech are doing fine, but Midtown is a very well established neighborhood with a strong residential real estate market. I don't know if the transient, temporary nature of student housing is the best vehicle for trying to basically start a neighborhood in a disadvantaged area from scratch. But as we both said, we shall see! And at least it's not all student housing, which would be a tremendous mistake.

[jsvh]

Originally Posted by evannole

Agree that most of the houses in the area weren't worth much of anything until recently, but a contiguous parcel of this size that is slated for redevelopment is quite another matter. I think it was a very, very good deal for GSU and the developer in question.

Just looked it up, the Braves paid $600k an acre for their similarly sized site in Cobb. So $500k an acre still does not come across as a "fire sale" price to me.

[jsvh]

Originally Posted by primaltech

Dude, all you ever do is hate on where I live, and it bothers me. You start 20 threads a day constantly bashing the area where I live. So, I'm sorry if, after reading all your posts, I eventually say something in any way critical of the city, or one particular neighborhood in it. I always praise the city in many of my other posts. I like Atlanta apparently a lot more than you like Cobb.

And as far as "Good riddance to the Braves", for a lot of the members of this forum (including some who live inside city limits), they moved closer, not away. For me, they moved a whole lot closer. I've never lived this close to a stadium before.

I'm not even a fan of the Braves. They suck. I hate their ownership and everything that the team and the franchise has become. I find them sad. But, you know if you're going to sit here and constantly attack my county and my neighborhood, and the developments here, then yes, I'm going to defend it, and I might have something critical to say about your area in return.

Fair enough. It is unfortunate how the Braves have split the metro with the posturing they took in this move.

[evannole]

Originally Posted by jsvh

Just looked it up, the Braves paid $600k an acre for their similarly sized site in Cobb. So $500k an acre still does not come across as a "fire sale" price to me.

Well, $600k/acre is 34% more than the $448k/acre for which the Turner Field site sold, which is still a fairly appreciable difference. Moreover, the Cobb site needed extensive excavation and remediation due to the pipeline that ran through there and had to be moved; that was one of the primary reasons that parcel sat vacant for so long - the expense of moving the pipeline made the site difficult to work with, both physically and financially, for all but the largest projects. But yes, even so, I am surprised that the Braves got that land for $600k/acre, so thanks for looking it up. That, too, seems a good deal.

[primaltech]

Originally Posted by jsvh

Fair enough. It is unfortunate how the Braves have split the metro with the posturing they took in this move.

It's unfortunate that there are people in this metro with a tree branch so far up their anus, that they refuse to be able to enjoy or appreciate something that's on one arbitrary side of the Chattahoochee or the other.

The "Atlanta sucks, Cobb rules" trolls, and the "Atlanta rules, Cobb sucks" forum regulars, are both annoying.

There's stuff to appreciate on both sides of the river. And this is one metro. Quit turning everything into "us vs. them", and let's all just be nice to each other and appreciate the nice things that we have. You can still go to the Braves game if you ever want to, and in the meantime, the city gets that awesome GA State redevelopment. So I don't understand why you have to be negative and apparently wish for our failure out here. Why don't you just let us enjoy our area and our new stadium, that we didn't even ask for, anyway.

Bad enough if our taxes are getting raised without even having a choice, but we also gotta get jsvh's threads?

[arjay57]

Other than Corndog in his various incarnations, this seems like an extremely pro-city-of-Atlanta forum to me.

[back2atl]

Thanks primaltech! One metro Atlanta! We're all in this together.

[brownhornet]

Originally Posted by primaltech

It's unfortunate that there are people in this metro with a tree branch so far up their anus, that they refuse to be able to enjoy or appreciate something that's on one arbitrary side of the Chattahoochee or the other.

The "Atlanta sucks, Cobb rules" trolls, and the "Atlanta rules, Cobb sucks" forum regulars, are both annoying.

There's stuff to appreciate on both sides of the river. And this is one metro. Quit turning everything into "us vs. them", and let's all just be nice to each other and appreciate the nice things that we have. You can still go to the Braves game if you ever want to, and in the meantime, the city gets that awesome GA State redevelopment. So I don't understand why you have to be negative and apparently wish for our failure out here. Why don't you just let us enjoy our area and our new stadium, that we didn't even ask for, anyway.

Bad enough if our taxes are getting raised without even having a choice, but we also gotta get jsvh's threads?

This is how I am lol. People complaining and crying about areas 10 minutes apart lol. Who cares...