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I used to have an apartment in Subiaco, and didn't use my car much at all. Now I live in the "burbs", and life would be much harder without cars. I think the same can be said for most Australian cities - most have followed the "American" car centric model.
As for public transport between Perth and Adelaide. Perth has the far superior train system - on the Mandurah - Joondalup line during peak hour the trains are only approx 4 minutes apart, which makes getting into work quite easy. The trains have a posted limit of 130km/hr, which I remember reading makes it the fastest metro train system in the country.
Have they even electrified the train system in Adelaide yet, or do you still have those diesel trains? I remember waiting an hour and a half one stinking hot day on the Noarlunga line after the train overheated - and the air-conditioning wasn't working. Bus wise Adelaide's buses were regular, and the O-Barn was fairly interesting as a light rail replacement. Both Adelaide and Perth have a free inner city bus service, and Melbourne has the free 'loop' tram.
The tram system in Adelaide is 'interesting' since it's largely unshared with the road users for the most part. The other quirky thing I remember about Adelaide was those stupid roads that only go in one direction. They built a three-lane freeway (I think it was called the Southern Express Way), and in the morning cars were only allowed north-bound, and in the afternoon, south-bound. It was great if you were going with the peak flow, and shaved off a good deal of time. But if you were going against the flow, then you'd have to do a different route (ie, South Road), and it could take you twice as long.
One very nice thing about Perth and Adelaide is that there are no toll roads.
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I used to have an apartment in Subiaco, and didn't use my car much at all. Now I live in the "burbs", and life would be much harder without cars. I think the same can be said for most Australian cities - most have followed the "American" car centric model.
As for public transport between Perth and Adelaide. Perth has the far superior train system - on the Mandurah - Joondalup line during peak hour the trains are only approx 4 minutes apart, which makes getting into work quite easy. The trains have a posted limit of 130km/hr, which I remember reading makes it the fastest metro train system in the country.
Have they even electrified the train system in Adelaide yet, or do you still have those diesel trains? I remember waiting an hour and a half one stinking hot day on the Noarlunga line after the train overheated - and the air-conditioning wasn't working. Bus wise Adelaide's buses were regular, and the O-Barn was fairly interesting as a light rail replacement. Both Adelaide and Perth have a free inner city bus service, and Melbourne has the free 'loop' tram.
The tram system in Adelaide is 'interesting' since it's largely unshared with the road users for the most part. The other quirky thing I remember about Adelaide was those stupid roads that only go in one direction. They built a three-lane freeway (I think it was called the Southern Express Way), and in the morning cars were only allowed north-bound, and in the afternoon, south-bound. It was great if you were going with the peak flow, and shaved off a good deal of time. But if you were going against the flow, then you'd have to do a different route (ie, South Road), and it could take you twice as long.
One very nice thing about Perth and Adelaide is that there are no toll roads.
Yep, they still use diesel trains in Adelaide, much more dated than ours. The stations too looked pretty dated and unwelcoming, a bit like how the stations on the Fremantle and Midland lines looked about 20 years ago.
Yeah the Glenelg tram was disappointingly 'un-tramlike' for my hopes, rather detached from the road and the streetlife. Maybe it's better for speed, but it's still even slower than the Adelaide trains, which seem considerably slower than Perth trains. One time I took the train up to Gawler (if you thought Midland was bad ) and it seemed to take nearly two hours.
Yup its the iconic SA beer. fortunately its easy to find in NY (I buy it in NJ for 1.25 a bottle), I've found it in Boston and a month ago the British Consulate served it at a fundraiser for Queensland. I did have to educated the yankee bartender on how to roll the bottle prior to opening. Good stuff. Funny Aussie wine and beer at times is cheaper in the US (and Canada) than back in Oz.. to turn this post into topic..I'd vote Adelaide.. great food, wine and beer. And enough artsy stuff in Adelaide to keep you entertained.
Even Outback has Coopers for sale.
Why do you roll the bottle? I'm not a beer drinker, only had a few in my life, so I wouldn't know.
Why do you roll the bottle? I'm not a beer drinker, only had a few in my life, so I wouldn't know.
Not in New Hampshire and a few other states, unfortunately. You roll to get the yeast moving, adds flavor. And I've only been to Outback in 2 years when someone told me they had Outback.
My ideal flight to the northern hemisphere would avoid Sydney and LAX. Hate Sydney airport with a passion. Same for LAX. Brissie's much nicer. Too bad about San Francisco being dropped, we flew via there last year, then on to San Diego. Such a relief to avoid LAX for once.
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Wow, 15.5 hrs SYD-DFW ... no thanks.
My ideal flight to the northern hemisphere would avoid Sydney and LAX. Hate Sydney airport with a passion. Same for LAX. Brissie's much nicer. Too bad about San Francisco being dropped, we flew via there last year, then on to San Diego. Such a relief to avoid LAX for once.
I'll be flying from Kingsford Smith to LAX in June, 15 hours, can't wait for my first taste of long-haul flying!
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) and it seemed to take nearly two hours.
