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Old 09-24-2019, 01:37 PM
 
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However it happens, I can see a future where a privately owned vehicle and the cross county family road trip are a thing of the past or only available to the wealthy.

 
Old 09-24-2019, 02:04 PM
 
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Drivers of automobiles will soon be looked down upon like smokers are today. You may own a 63' corvette and you want to drive it out in the country on the weekends; first you'll get dirty looks, eventually people will shame you off the road screaming, "I don't care if you want to kill yourself with that thing but now you're endangering my children!"

First it will be illegal to drive in city centers like London and NYC then it will be banished to certain race tracks way out in the country, eventually banned outright.
 
Old 09-24-2019, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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They want to create more government dependency, and hence control. It is happening in other areas. It has nothing to do with "the climate".
 
Old 09-24-2019, 02:22 PM
 
Location: 0.83 Atmospheres
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They want to create more government dependency, and hence control. It is happening in other areas. It has nothing to do with "the climate".
“They?”
 
Old 09-24-2019, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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“They?”
The elite class, globalists, etc. Yes THEY. But I will not get anymore political in this forum. If you want to discuss "THEY" start a thread in P&OC.
 
Old 09-24-2019, 02:45 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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The elite class, globalists, etc. Yes THEY. But I will not get anymore political in this forum. If you want to discuss "THEY" start a thread in P&OC.
Why are you posting on a forum that they own and monitor?
 
Old 09-24-2019, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/...-in-the-us.php

Last year, electricity production in the US from coal constituted 27% of electrical production and has likely been trending downwards since. Combined renewable energy production is probably be at parity with coal for electrical production in the US by the end of 2020.
Interesting, I missed the flip from mostly coal to mostly fracking.
 
Old 09-24-2019, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Almost no maintenance. Absolutely. Even with our existing ICE cars. No one has ever had a power window, a power door lock, a remote mirror control, a power seat fail. Virtually all the electric systems of our cars have been almost trouble free, Right?
Depends. They've all been trouble free on the majority of vehicles I've owned. Never had any failures on the Honda Accord, Mazda3, Mitsubishi Eclipse which were the only cars that I really kept old enough where I'd expect some of that stuff to fail. Now the VW, well, that made up for it. Something electrical on that POS failed every few months.
 
Old 09-24-2019, 03:58 PM
 
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It's impossible to believe that there's not a They out there when it comes to some of this hive minded bullshish. They: a loosely associated gaggle of over-educated idiots mostly involved in politics, media, academia or any combination thereof. They apply "activism" to situations that require none and They run amok in the misguided belief that everything that happened before last week was a horrible sin of some kind that needs to be remedied immediately.
 
Old 09-24-2019, 04:22 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Interesting, I missed the flip from mostly coal to mostly fracking.
Still not mostly—there’s no majority single source anymore. Emissions-wise, natural gas is generally significantly better than coal and solar and wind have been gaining pretty quickly.
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