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Another state has followed California’s example in banning the sale of new gasoline-powered vehicles. This time, it’s Massachusetts, and it’s aiming for a more electric-friendly state by 2035."
This is from Jalopnik. There is no paywall, anyone can read it. I'll be dead by then, but some of the younger enthusiasts out there might be affected.
In the meantime I just topped up the tank in our I-power generator because we were told no power all day Tuesday due to maintenance. We are in Northern California.
Meanwhile down south we have some counties that don't even check emissions and your EGR delete is A-OK!
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Meanwhile down south we have some counties that don't even check emissions and your EGR delete is A-OK!
Here in the entire state of Washington there is no longer any emission inspections as of a year ago. It's still illegal to tamper with factory emissions systems, but only something obvious spotted by the state patrol would result in a ticket.
I watched that a couple of days ago. And of course the problem with Central Planning is that bureaucrats do not live in a real world of consequences for behavior. Look no further than governors closing businesses and putting people out of work while the entire state government apparatus continues getting its paychecks.
Thus it is with pie-in-the-sky Central Planners. It worked so well in the Soviet Union and the Eastern Bloc, it works so well in Red China with US subsidies, but the physical and technological impossibility of creating enough "green" power is a fact that cannot be overcome by brain dead Central Planners.
This Green Delusion is clearly a mental disorder, a form of psychosis in which detachment from reality is encouraged and applauded.
If this was so hunky-dory wouldn't China be going all electric? Well, it ain't hunky-dory and China is building coal powered generators like they're going out of style. Which they are in the Delusional West. Central Planners think the world has always been wealthy and fairly free, as it is now thanks to a couple of centuries of Western Civilization, but the normal state of humankind is more along the royalty-serf/peasant model.
This delusion train will come to a screeching halt because Central Planners are at the core incompetent boobs. Look no further than California's electric power troubles. Much of that is self-induced because the greenies are so greenfected that they won't allow trimming of greenery near power lines, fires start due to electrical contact or lightning strikes, the fires take out the electrical lines, and guess what? Green become red-orange-yellow, the red-orange-yellow of massive fires. Brought on largely by psychotic Central Planners, every one of whom is The Smartest Guy In The Room. Just ask them. Ask Gates.
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I wouldn't be surprised if these bans eventually end up in the courts.
They will have to because the Central Planners are interfering with commerce.
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I hope California can figure out how to provide a steady source of electricity to all of California by then. Large areas of California get their electricity off sometimes for weeks at a time.
Don't worry! Greenness will take care of all that!
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California can't even keep the lights on.
No worries, the governor's mansion has lights, the legislature has lights, no problemo!
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I have nothing against EVs. We can afford and we might buy the best car Tesla offers one day. For my wife it would be the ideal vehicle if I drop dead before her because she has no idea how to maintain and care for an ICE car or SUV. She has a hard time changing batteries in a flashlight and she can't open the hood to check the oil in our Kona. But she knows hot to plug in a toaster - what else do you need to drive a Tesla?
The problem I have, the reason I posted this, in a metaphor: Filet mignon is terrific. I love it. But please, don't force it down my throat when I want something different.
So you won't be moving to Cuba or Venezuela any time soon, I take it.
So what is driving the electric car phenomenon, economics maybe. I'll go along with Hybrids sales at 50% but E.V.'s not so much.
Doesn't the electric car phenomenon have much more to do with economics then efficiency? After making just a few observations about cost of living in Japan and the E.U. it becomes clear that the driving force behind electric cars is economics.
A few examples. (check the individual countries your self) as a percentage of income.
E.U. or Japan's gas cost per liter.
E.U. or Japan's Kilowatt hour cost of electric.
E.U. or Japan's Cost of health care.
E.U. or Japan's Average monthly wages.
E.U. countries massive strikes and car burning's for years during national holidays in numerous E.U. countries.
E.U. or Japan's Lack of natural gas, petroleum resources.
Hong Kong 13% of their real estate sales last year were NANO apartments (defined as) 244 square feet or less a rapidly growing phenomenon in a well to do country.
The bottom line is I had no idea that a number of European countries had people who were purposefully burning thousands of cars yearly on national holidays, there must be a reason. I'd say gas is not affordable over there.
It's possible that the timeline may be extended as it gets closer. But based on the rapid change in electric technology in the past 10 years, the next 15 are going to be even greater. One automotive podcast that I listen to said that once a manufacturer can profitably sell a $25K EV with 400 miles of range, it'll become the sales leader.
In September 2020 Elon Musk announced a 3-year timeline for Tesla to roll out the $25k car.
I drive a 2014 Focus with 150 k miles on it, and I hope my next car will be that $25k Tesla.
I watched that a couple of days ago. And of course the problem with Central Planning is that bureaucrats do not live in a real world of consequences for behavior. Look no further than governors closing businesses and putting people out of work while the entire state government apparatus continues getting its paychecks.
Thus it is with pie-in-the-sky Central Planners. It worked so well in the Soviet Union and the Eastern Bloc, it works so well in Red China with US subsidies, but the physical and technological impossibility of creating enough "green" power is a fact that cannot be overcome by brain dead Central Planners.
This Green Delusion is clearly a mental disorder, a form of psychosis in which detachment from reality is encouraged and applauded.
If this was so hunky-dory wouldn't China be going all electric? Well, it ain't hunky-dory and China is building coal powered generators like they're going out of style. Which they are in the Delusional West. Central Planners think the world has always been wealthy and fairly free, as it is now thanks to a couple of centuries of Western Civilization, but the normal state of humankind is more along the royalty-serf/peasant model.
This delusion train will come to a screeching halt because Central Planners are at the core incompetent boobs. Look no further than California's electric power troubles. Much of that is self-induced because the greenies are so greenfected that they won't allow trimming of greenery near power lines, fires start due to electrical contact or lightning strikes, the fires take out the electrical lines, and guess what? Green become red-orange-yellow, the red-orange-yellow of massive fires. Brought on largely by psychotic Central Planners, every one of whom is The Smartest Guy In The Room. Just ask them. Ask Gates.
In September 2020 Elon Musk announced a 3-year timeline for Tesla to roll out the $25k car.
I drive a 2014 Focus with 150 k miles on it, and I hope my next car will be that $25k Tesla.
I don't trust Tesla with achieving that goal by 2023. Elon has never met a deadline that was actually met. And even if they eventually make one for $25K, it'll be offered for a few months with a few sold and then no longer offered. The Model 3 was their $35K EV. You can no longer get it and it was replaced by a $38K model with fewer features but more range.
or simply drive to NH and buy your new vehicle there, then drive it back to Mass......and register it as a used car! Lots of time to repeal/extend that "law"
To register it in MA as a used vehicle it has be registered elsewhere for at least 6 months. Without that, you owe the sales tax and I presume you won't be allowed to register it.
I'd like to see the politicians making these laws to have the guts to make them non-negotiable, to make "hard stops" that cannot be moved or kicked down the road. And personally post some kind of bond, maybe tied to their retirement benefits, so when it goes south, they lose their pensions. Idjits.
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