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Old 01-13-2021, 08:09 AM
 
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When EV's have 1000 miles of range and competitive prices, this will all be moot. People will simply switch to EV's of their own accord.

Around that time, 10-15 years from now, self-driving cars will be a lot more common and that will be the big legal/social controversy, not fuel.

Of course, if global warming continues to advance, the world is supposed to end in 9 years (it was 11 years, two years ago, so I'm just doing the math here). So EVERYTHING will be moot. Live for today!!!!
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Old 01-13-2021, 11:59 AM
 
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Dumb idea for so many reasons.

If we've moved to mostly EV's by the 2030s, all a bad actor would have to do is take out the power grid and society grinds to a halt. Klaus Schwab and his WEF have already foreshadowed large-scale power outages worldwide, just like many NGOs foreshadowed the "global pandemic".
You know gas pumps operate on electricity as well......
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Old 01-13-2021, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
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Well, battery technology will have to improve a lot. I can't imagine driving from Memphis to LA in a car that costs almost $80K and needs a new charge every 375-400 miles. Also, hybrid vehicles gas mileage sucks on the open road.
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Old 01-13-2021, 02:30 PM
 
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Norway has led the world in using the carrot and stick method for getting EV cars on the road. When buying an EV, Norwegians:

avoid the 50% sales tax on an ICE vehicle
avoid the 25% VAT tax on an ICE vehicle
avoid annual road taxes
get up to a 50% discount on tolls and parking fees
get to use bus lanes with as few as two passengers.

That certainly would get attention here. Adding rewards to the mix always seems worth considering. Reminds me of the Speed Camera Lottery:




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iynz...ature=emb_logo
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Old 01-13-2021, 04:07 PM
 
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Norway is a tiny country with fewer cars nationally than a typical US city, combined with a plethora of hydroelectric plants and awash in oil money. Not sure how it is in any way relevant to the USA. Of all the major powers Japan is probably most likely to be able to go EV.
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Old 01-13-2021, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Floribama
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You know gas pumps operate on electricity as well......
Here in hurricane country, many newer gas stations have backup generators.
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Old 01-13-2021, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Alabama
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Here in hurricane country, many newer gas stations have backup generators.
Fuel can easily be pumped and stored without electricity anyhow if need be.
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Old 01-13-2021, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Northeast states
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I have nothing against EVs. We can afford and we might buy the best car Tesla offers one day. For my wife it would be the ideal vehicle if I drop dead before her because she has no idea how to maintain and care for an ICE car or SUV. She has a hard time changing batteries in a flashlight and she can't open the hood to check the oil in our Kona. But she knows hot to plug in a toaster - what else do you need to drive a Tesla?

The problem I have, the reason I posted this, in a metaphor: Filet mignon is terrific. I love it. But please, don't force it down my throat when I want something different.
EV will get cheaper by 2023-2025 Apple, Sony and bunch of startups hopping on EV cars. it is rapidly growing I will say by 2025 25-30% of new cars global will be EV and by 2030 it will be 50-60%.

15% of gas stations will be covert into charging stations by 2025.
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Old 01-13-2021, 08:51 PM
 
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EV will get cheaper by 2023-2025 Apple, Sony and bunch of startups hopping on EV cars. it is rapidly growing I will say by 2025 25-30% of new cars global will be EV and by 2030 it will be 50-60%.

15% of gas stations will be covert into charging stations by 2025.
Apple charges $1400 for an average phone and 2k for an average computer they pay their servants in India sometimes bear minimum wages. If they get involved they won't get cheaper. I remember before they started making phones, I could get one for $200 and that was extreme.
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Old 01-14-2021, 12:20 PM
 
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Well, battery technology will have to improve a lot. I can't imagine driving from Memphis to LA in a car that costs almost $80K and needs a new charge every 375-400 miles.
Japan has solved this problem.

If you want to use a highway in Japan, you have to pay a steep toll.
So, it makes sense just to take a train for the price of the toll.

Then, you can use an electric bicycle. Nobody will steal it in Japan. Unlike California, where a progressivist law prohibits the police from searching for a thief if a bicycle costs less than $950.
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