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Another aspect that some people that live in very cold climates do not understand is that places that do not have snow in winter does not mean that they do not experience 4 seasons with changes in temperature, vegetation color, wildlife, etc....
Autumn in Rome,. a sunny city that basically never see a drop of snow and where the temperature always stays above freezing in winter....4 seasons indeed...I would actually argue that many of the more temperate places sees more of the 4 seasons turnover than a lot of colder ones.
Yes, I laugh out loud every time a Canadian says "we just have 4 seasons" as if winter necessarily means -25C, 2 feet of snow and freezing temperature in April. That's not winter. That's hell.
Canadians usually don't understand what a normal human being sees as "winter" - somewhere between -5 and +5 degrees, one or two snow falls, or none, and it usually is gone by early march, where flowers start to bloom and trees turn green.
Last winter in Lyon, it is unusually cold at -8C for a few days, one snow fall in late Jan, but spring arrived by March 10. That's called "winter". Today it is 36C. That's called "four seasons" without hell.
Even Vancouver's weather is hardly good. Does anyone in the US think Seattle has great weather? It will be hard to find one. Vancouver is often considered to have good weather only in the context of Canada, which is horrible overall.
Some people are ridiculou to say the weather is not so bad because 35M people live here. Where is the logic? Can Canadians move wherever they want to? People live in war-torn countries too, does that mean they don't mind the suffering?
True.
Thing that puzzles me is that people pick on Canada for the "bad climate"
but it barely registers when discussing any other country.
For example, Poland has such great climates....I think not, there are better climates in parts of Canada.
Even the vaunted UK. Sure it's mild, no doubt, but not that fantastic.
If you want a UK kind of mild Canada can provide that ....Victoria, BC (and it's sunnier than the UK too).
Warmest average july anywhere in the UK (around London) is about 23.5C (74F)
Heck, that's like Windsor, Ontario average september high!
A lot of these european countries don't anything in terms of places like Osoyoos, BC
with it's hot dry summers....average july high 31.5C (89F).
Also not as good in the sunshine department either, Canada's southern pairies average
annual sunshine hours are in the 2500 plus range.
Both London and Paris struggle with less than 1700,
Canadian cities are well above that from coast to coast, even Vancouver in the 1900 range.
Countries like...
Norway
Sweden
Finland
Denmark
Estonia
Latvia
Lithuania
Belarus
Poland
Czech Republic
Slovakia
Netherlands
Belgium
Austria
Germany
Slovenia
Moldova
The UK
All not as good as Canada climatically.
Other countries not much better...
Romania
Bulgaria
Russia
Even countries in Asia not that great....
Japan....a soggy humid mess
Korea...north and south...again a soggy humid mess, poor for the latitude
Even China...a lot of it has very poor sunshine hours and north areas frigid winters,
southern area, again soggy humid, horrid climates. Yunnan Provine is good though.
Thing that puzzles me is that people pick on Canada for the "bad climate"
but it barely registers when discussing any other country.
For example, Poland has such great climates....I think not, there are better climates in parts of Canada.
Even the vaunted UK. Sure it's mild, no doubt, but not that fantastic.
If you want a UK kind of mild Canada can provide that ....Victoria, BC (and it's sunnier than the UK too).
Warmest average july anywhere in the UK (around London) is about 23.5C (74F)
Heck, that's like Windsor, Ontario average september high!
A lot of these european countries don't anything in terms of places like Osoyoos, BC
with it's hot dry summers....average july high 31.5C (89F).
Also not as good in the sunshine department either, Canada's southern pairies average
annual sunshine hours are in the 2500 plus range.
Both London and Paris struggle with less than 1700,
Canadian cities are well above that from coast to coast, even Vancouver in the 1900 range.
Countries like...
Norway
Sweden
Finland
Denmark
Estonia
Latvia
Lithuania
Belarus
Poland
Czech Republic
Slovakia
Netherlands
Belgium
Austria
Germany
Slovenia
Moldova
The UK
All not as good as Canada climatically.
Other countries not much better...
Romania
Bulgaria
Russia
Even countries in Asia not that great....
Japan....a soggy humid mess
Korea...north and south...again a soggy humid mess, poor for the latitude
Even China...a lot of it has very poor sunshine hours and north areas frigid winters,
southern area, again soggy humid, horrid climates. Yunnan Provine is good though.
What? You're actually attempting to suggest to these obsessive compulsive Canada bashers that there might be other countries out there with less than temperate climates?
This is my translation of Canadian mentality: "If we're performing better than the United States, we should be satisfied".
I like Canada and Canadians, but I think their country would improve more if they tried to compete against Australia or Norway instead.
Here's a tip for you...take a look at the history of this section starting at page 189 to see from which country the vast majority of the 'Canada vs US' comparisons emanate, then get back to us all on what you learn from reading those threads started by predominantly one country's citizens premised upon comparing Canada and the U.S. for the sole purpose of disparaging one of them.
Yes, I laugh out loud every time a Canadian says "we just have 4 seasons" as if winter necessarily means -25C, 2 feet of snow and freezing temperature in April. That's not winter. That's hell.
Canadians usually don't understand what a normal human being sees as "winter" - somewhere between -5 and +5 degrees, one or two snow falls, or none, and it usually is gone by early march, where flowers start to bloom and trees turn green.
Last winter in Lyon, it is unusually cold at -8C for a few days, one snow fall in late Jan, but spring arrived by March 10. That's called "winter". Today it is 36C. That's called "four seasons" without hell.
To you.
What you see as normal is defined by your experience so since you didn't grow up with a Manitoba style winter, it wouldn't be 'normal' to you any more than months of grey cloudy skies and drizzle is normal to me. I certainly have no objection to people who prefer to live in a grey hell all winter long. But for normal people who have had the opportunity to experience something different, their reaction to seasons might have more in common with that of my sister-in-law who lived on Vancouver Island for many years: "Oh to be in Manitoba in the spring!"
I lived not that far from Lyon some years ago.
Aren't you the person who complained as well about how Canadians romantize a 'real' summer while you prefer it cooler? I seem to recall a post like that.
This is my translation of Canadian mentality: "If we're performing better than the United States, we should be satisfied".
I like Canada and Canadians, but I think their country would improve more if they tried to compete against Australia or Norway instead.
Normally I like all of your posts and I have repped you several times for your sharp astuteness but that post is totally off the wall BS. Where did you get the impression that Canada even wants or needs to compete with and perform better than USA, let alone against any other country? Canada doesn't need to compete with any other countries, especially not USA since USA is so badly screwed up right now and getting worse with each passing day they don't know if they're coming or going.
Does your impression and translation of Canadian mentality come just from this forum or does it come from all over the world wide web? Certainly there is always room for improvement from Canada but it doesn't have to be at the expense of any other country or because of competition with other countries. What's the point of chest thumping and picking on any country when all it does is cause hard feelings?
Most Canadians couldn't care less about other foreign nationals' insecurities and competitiveness over their own countries and we would be satisfied if certain trollish people would just buzz off, quit their baiting, bullying and ragging on Canada, and mind their own god damned business and confine their national insecurities to their own countries.
Just because one or two Canadians on the Canada forum can't resist constantly rising to non-stop troll bait coming from non-Canadians and perpetuating the competitive stupidity as if they think they're proving a point to anyone who actually cares does NOT mean that all of Canadian mentality equals "If we're performing better than the United States, we should be satisfied". That is such BS.
Thing that puzzles me is that people pick on Canada for the "bad climate"
but it barely registers when discussing any other country.
For example, Poland has such great climates....I think not, there are better climates in parts of Canada.
Even the vaunted UK. Sure it's mild, no doubt, but not that fantastic.
If you want a UK kind of mild Canada can provide that ....Victoria, BC (and it's sunnier than the UK too).
Warmest average july anywhere in the UK (around London) is about 23.5C (74F)
Heck, that's like Windsor, Ontario average september high!
A lot of these european countries don't anything in terms of places like Osoyoos, BC
with it's hot dry summers....average july high 31.5C (89F).
Also not as good in the sunshine department either, Canada's southern pairies average
annual sunshine hours are in the 2500 plus range.
Both London and Paris struggle with less than 1700,
Canadian cities are well above that from coast to coast, even Vancouver in the 1900 range.
Countries like...
Norway
Sweden
Finland
Denmark
Estonia
Latvia
Lithuania
Belarus
Poland
Czech Republic
Slovakia
Netherlands
Belgium
Austria
Germany
Slovenia
Moldova
The UK
All not as good as Canada climatically.
Other countries not much better...
Romania
Bulgaria
Russia
Even countries in Asia not that great....
Japan....a soggy humid mess
Korea...north and south...again a soggy humid mess, poor for the latitude
Even China...a lot of it has very poor sunshine hours and north areas frigid winters,
southern area, again soggy humid, horrid climates. Yunnan Provine is good though.
The UK is regularly mocked (in a funny way) for its weather.....ever hear the expression "our 3 days of summer"?? So is Russia......nobody thinks Germany has great weather and nobody visit Scandinavian countries for their weather.....so no, is not only Canada....
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Normally I like all of your posts and I have repped you several times for your sharp astuteness but that post is totally off the wall BS. Where did you get the impression that Canada even wants or needs to compete with and perform better than USA, let alone against any other country? Canada doesn't need to compete with any other countries, especially not USA since USA is so badly screwed up right now and getting worse with each passing day they don't know if they're coming or going.
Does your impression and translation of Canadian mentality come just from this forum or does it come from all over the world wide web? Certainly there is always room for improvement from Canada but it doesn't have to be at the expense of any other country or because of competition with other countries. What's the point of chest thumping and picking on any country when all it does is cause hard feelings?
Most Canadians couldn't care less about other foreign nationals' insecurities and competitiveness over their own countries and we would be satisfied if certain trollish people would just buzz off, quit their baiting, bullying and ragging on Canada, and mind their own god damned business and confine their national insecurities to their own countries.
Just because one or two Canadians on the Canada forum can't resist constantly rising to non-stop troll bait coming from non-Canadians and perpetuating the competitive stupidity as if they think they're proving a point to anyone who actually cares does NOT mean that all of Canadian mentality equals "If we're performing better than the United States, we should be satisfied". That is such BS.
What you see as normal is defined by your experience so since you didn't grow up with a Manitoba style winter, it wouldn't be 'normal' to you any more than months of grey cloudy skies and drizzle is normal to me. I certainly have no objection to people who prefer to live in a grey hell all winter long. But for normal people who have had the opportunity to experience something different, their reaction to seasons might have more in common with that of my sister-in-law who lived on Vancouver Island for many years: "Oh to be in Manitoba in the spring!"
I lived not that far from Lyon some years ago.
Aren't you the person who complained as well about how Canadians romantize a 'real' summer while you prefer it cooler? I seem to recall a post like that.
......when I lived in Vancouver and I was complaining with friends and colleagues about the long dreary rainy days the most common comment was ohh think about Toronto now or Calgary or Montreal and so on......because that was the comparison, the alternatives....so I should have considered myself lucky.....
Once you live in a warm climate there is no way back.
....yes that is the most common comment from people with your similar experience....
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