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People don't reject God, they reject what they don't believe.
What's the problem in that..? You either believe something or you don't.
You cannot FORCE belief, nor would you want to.
I personally believe that "every knee will bow". Not out of fear or terror or "right before they're thrown into eternal flames.." But that every knee will bow out of the sheer WEIGHT of His LOVE.
In my opinion, one who self identifies as a christian, yet who believes God will cause an eternity of suffering for some of the people that He created, are further away from the true picture of God than an atheist who doesn't even believe that there IS a God.
sparrow
ok ... I'm trying to envision this as a conversation between you and a atheist
Atheist:I don't believe in God
Sparrow: People don't reject God, they reject what they don't believe.
Atheist:Well, I consider myself a 'people', are inferring I'm not? ... and just tell me how do I as an atheist, who doesn't believe in God ,mind you, reject what they don't believe?
Sparrow: Oh, fyi .... I personally believe that "every knee will bow".
Atheist:Really ... mind telling me just how this non-existent God of yours going to do that ... by force?
Sparrow: You cannot FORCE belief, but that every knee will bow out of the sheer WEIGHT of His LOVE.
Atheist: not by FORCE, but by sheer WEIGHT ......
............. oh I see. Like the God elephant who sits on a atheist .... ... you want me to believe that's not by FORCE the atheist can't get up, it's just sheer WEIGHT
Sparrow: Yup, not by FORCE , it's just sheer WEIGHT of LOVE
Atheist: I thought you said "they reject what they don't believe." ... does that include you?
Sparrow: In my opinion, one who self identifies as a christian, yet who believes God will cause an
............eternity of suffering for some of the people that He created, are further away from the true
............ picture of God than an atheist who doesn't even believe that there IS a God.
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No one knows and no one should pretend to know! Only God knows and ONLY God decides.
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber
So, you are not sure whether or not atheists end up in hell?
There is no hell of the type most people believe in. I don't think there is any ambiguity in my post, Finn. ONLY God knows and ONLY God decides. What about that is confusing to you?
There is no hell of the type most people believe in. I don't think there is any ambiguity in my post, Finn. ONLY God knows and ONLY God decides. What about that is confusing to you?
I agree only God can make that decision, but if his word says where unbelievers end up, do you believe someone who was saved, but later on in life became an atheist and reject God and die unrepentant with that hate in their heart for God is going to heaven?
That pretty much makes the Christan walk in life and trying to act holy and be like Jesus pointless , if all you have to do is confess and believe and you can do as you please from that point on and still get the same end reward as someone who turned down all the sinful temptations in life.
That is what OSAS teaches and some on here actually think people like atheists will go to heaven because they were once saved as a kid or teen. WHy would God reward a person who actaully hates him and wants nothing to do with him. For that atheist, Heaven would be actual hell considering they would have to be with God forever.
There is no hell of the type most people believe in. I don't think there is any ambiguity in my post, Finn. ONLY God knows and ONLY God decides. What about that is confusing to you?
Decides what? The conversation is where atheists go, heaven or hell, and you said only God can decide that. I agree about who decides, but what decision are you talking about when you argue hell does not even exist. If there is only one destination, then there is nothing to decide.
I still err on the side of caution, respect and wisdom and choose not to play God. I will not say that anyone is going to hell and it is pointless and somewhat hypocritical for us imperfect people to presume to know. God will decide, so it is far wiser to respect that 100% rather than say a group of people that one does not like or agree with are going to hell. It is very disrespectful to God IMO when people want to make that decision to condemn others to hell as if they were God themselves. We don't know. He knows and will decide.
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" But that every knee will bow out of the sheer WEIGHT of His LOVE.
