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Well, when one reads the above it starts to become fairly evident why the men of Sodom showed no interest in those two bimbos.
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And why is that old mate? Because those young girls were so isolated, and the only world, the only people that they ever knew, had been destroyed?
I'm responding to what is no more than a story, Anointed, which is why I feel entitled to apply an amount of levity. An account of a historical event normally has to have a surviving witness to account for the event. So, who was in the cave to record this event with Lot and his randy daughters? Who was it that ran with them when they fled Sodom and witnessed Lot's wife being turned into a pillar of salt? We're told in scripture that it was only Lot and his two daughters who survived. There is no 4th person mentioned. Or, am I again being too logical (donning my Mr. Spock ears) for you? Seriously, have you actually read this story through the eyes of logic?
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Those immoral perverted homosexual Sodomites that you admitted to thinking day and night of ways to defend them, who wanted to rape lot and his two male visitors. would have done the same to a dog on the run, if there was nothing else to satisfy their lust for un-natural flesh. No mate, those Sodomite perverts rejected those young virgins, because of their lust for sex with members of their own gender.
I'm a tad embarrassed for you that this story has so affected you, Anointed. You're really angry with your 'Sodomites', aren't you? It IS just a story. Do other works of fiction affect you similarly? You appear to have some inner issues that are beyond my expertise to address. Just believe the fiction that you choose to believe but please lay off taking on others who are clearly better equipped with Bible savvy to handle these scriptures as they are meant to be handled. Meanwhile, just try to settle down and get it into your head that these 'Sodomites' of yours are not coming to get you and yours ...okay?
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But do carry on defending their actions old mate, it seems to be your life's ambition. But then you don't believe anything that is recorded in the scriptures, which state in Leviticus 18: 22-24 GNB Catholic Study Edition..... "No man is to have sexual relations with another man; God hates that. No man or woman is to have sexual relations with an animal; that perversion makes you ritually unclean. Do not make yourselves unclean by any of these acts, for that is how the pagans/Canaanites made themselves unclean, those pagans/Canaanites, who lived in the land before you and whom the LORD is driving out so that you can go in.
Sorry, Anointed, but I really DO have to resort to
I'm responding to what is no more than a story, Anointed, which is why I feel entitled to apply an amount of levity. An account of a historical event normally has to have a surviving witness to account for the event. So, who was in the cave to record this event with Lot and his randy daughters? Who was it that ran with them when they fled Sodom and witnessed Lot's wife being turned into a pillar of salt? We're told in scripture that it was only Lot and his two daughters who survived. There is no 4th person mentioned. Or, am I again being too logical (donning my Mr. Spock ears) for you? Seriously, have you actually read this story through the eyes of logic?
No, you are not being in the least logical, considering that the two daughters of Lot, who had witnessed all that had occurred from when the Sodomites tried to break down the door of their home in order to rape their father and his two visitors, their escape to the mountains, the loss of their mother, the rape of their father, would have relayed the entire story to their descendants. Wake up to yourself man,
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I'm a tad embarrassed for you that this story has so affected you, Anointed. You're really angry with your 'Sodomites', aren't you? It IS just a story. Do other works of fiction affect you similarly? You appear to have some inner issues that are beyond my expertise to address. Just believe the fiction that you choose to believe but please lay off taking on others who are clearly better equipped with Bible savvy to handle these scriptures as they are meant to be handled. Meanwhile, just try to settle down and get it into your head that these 'Sodomites' of yours are not coming to get you and yours ...okay?
No mate, I am not angry with the Sodomites who, you defend, God put an end to them, as did Burt Reynolds inflict justice on the inbred Hill-Billy sodomite who raped his mate. And you just continue to delude yourself in thinking that you are savvy enough to debate scripture with the likes of myself. That laughter you hear in the distance, that's me. Fancy thinking that there were no witnesses to the event that occurred around Sodom, Gomorrah and their surrounding towns
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Sorry, Anointed, but I really DO have to resort to
Then you continue to smile while I laugh at your illogical statements. No witnesses indeed, Ha, Haa Haaa.
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Reason: Fixed quote tags. Ask & I'll tell you what was wrong.
So do you agree that the Moabites and the Ammonites are fair game as enemies because of the circumstances of the birth of their founders? Because that's the reason for the story, but I didn't see you even mention them.
No, you are not being in the least logical, considering that the two daughters of Lot, who had witnessed all that had occurred from when the Sodomites tried to break down the door of their home in order to rape their father and his two visitors, their escape to the mountains, the loss of their mother, the rape of their father, would have relayed the entire story to their descendants. Wake up to yourself man,
No mate, I am not angry with the Sodomites who, you defend, God put an end to them, as did Burt Reynolds inflict justice on the inbred Hill-Billy sodomite who raped his mate. And you just continue to delude yourself in thinking that you are savvy enough to debate scripture with the likes of myself. That laughter you hear in the distance, that's me. Fancy thinking that there were no witnesses to the event that occurred around Sodom, Gomorrah and their surrounding towns
Then you continue to smile while I laugh at your illogical statements. No witnesses indeed, Ha, Haa Haaa.
Ezekiel 16
Behold, all who speak in proverbs will quote this proverb about you:
‘Like mother, like daughter.’
Do you know what adultery and prostitution against God is?
So do you agree that the Moabites and the Ammonites are fair game as enemies because of the circumstances of the birth of their founders? Because that's the reason for the story, but I didn't see you even mention them.
It would be nice to let people know who you are responding to, wouldn't it?
But if it is to me that your post is directed, let me assure you that the scriptures appear to agree that the Moabites and the Ammonites are fair game as enemies because of the circumstances of the birth of their founders
Jubilees 16: 7; And, in like manner, God will execute judgment on the places where they have done according to the uncleanness of the Sodomites, like unto the judgment of Sodom. But Lot we saved; for God remembered Abraham, and sent him out from the midst of the overthrow. And he and his daughters committed sin upon the earth, such as had not been on the earth since the days of Adam till his time; for the man lay with his daughters. And, behold, it was commanded and engraven concerning all his seed, on the heavenly tablets, to remove them and root them out, and to execute judgment upon them like the judgment of Sodom, and to leave no seed of the man on earth on the day of condemnation.
No, you are not being in the least logical, considering that the two daughters of Lot, who had witnessed all that had occurred from when the Sodomites tried to break down the door of their home in order to rape their father and his two visitors, their escape to the mountains, the loss of their mother, the rape of their father, would have relayed the entire story to their descendants.
Obviously, they did not intend on raping LOT, rather it would have been far worse for him, possibly leading to his death. Because it wasn't LOT that they were wanting to know or his daughters as they were not strangers. Personally, I don't believe it was about sex, as much as it is about power and control. And, I highly doubt that a god would be responsible for the death and destruction of the cities. However, I am sure the story grew over time. Which has been altered to meet the fears and ideologies of religion and its superstition, including its prejudices against homosexual people. A term that wasn't used, until the late 1,800's (which was first recorded in the Bible in 1946). It was only seventy-three years ago that a black man would be executed for having consensual sex with a white woman - they also called that rape. If you live in fear, especially of the uknown you will always act ignorantly. And come up with all kinds of excuses to justify your own thoughts, deeds and actions.
Obviously, they did not intend on raping LOT, rather it would have been far worse for him, possibly leading to his death. Because it wasn't LOT that they were wanting to know or his daughters as they were not strangers. Personally, I don't believe it was about sex, as much as it is about power and control. And, I highly doubt that a god would be responsible for the death and destruction of the cities. However, I am sure the story grew over time. Which has been altered to meet the fears and ideologies of religion and its superstition, including its prejudices against homosexual people. A term that wasn't used, until the late 1,800's (which was first recorded in the Bible in 1946). It was only seventy-three years ago that a black man would be executed for having consensual sex with a white woman - they also called that rape. If you live in fear, especially of the uknown you will always act ignorantly. And come up with all kinds of excuses to justify your own thoughts, deeds and actions.
Mate, you are entitled to believe whatsoever you choose to believe. You can believe that the two messengers had wings of Gold if you want. but I am not concerned with what you imagine in your own brain, rather I believe that which is supported by the scriptures, which states that those men of Sodom were immoral sexual perverts who lusted after strange flesh, and that their intention was to rape the men in the house of Lot.
BTW, Abraham's nephew Lot, was a stranger living in the town of Sodom.
Enjoy the rest of your day mate.
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Mate, you are entitled to believe whatsoever you choose to believe. You can believe that the two messengers had wings of Gold if you want. but I am not concerned with what you imagine in your own brain, rather I believe that which is supported by the scriptures, which states that those men of Sodom were immoral sexual perverts who lusted after strange flesh, and that their intention was to rape the men in the house of Lot.
BTW, Abraham's nephew Lot, was a stranger living in the town of Sodom.
Enjoy the rest of your day mate.
You don't believe anything the scriptures say, an there is no way for you to even argue this point.
I will start posting scripture and see how far you get.
Mate, you are entitled to believe whatsoever you choose to believe. You can believe that the two messengers had wings of Gold if you want. but I am not concerned with what you imagine in your own brain, rather I believe that which is supported by the scriptures, which states that those men of Sodom were immoral sexual perverts who lusted after strange flesh, and that their intention was to rape the men in the house of Lot.
BTW, Abraham's nephew Lot, was a stranger living in the town of Sodom.
Enjoy the rest of your day mate.
yes Jude states it clearly.. Jde 1:7
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication , and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
the Joel is also right in saying that it is fornication...and the ultimate expression of pornography .. not love and not marriage and not adultery..there is no human to human bonding or breaking...
there is only sin/ or demomic..... to human bonding / bondage .and only Jesus can do the breaking and forgiveness of that form of bondage(severing connection to hell and with it ,, the curses, vows and such) Just like the demoniac. and why self-mutilation is on the increase with all such groups...like the demoniac.
Obviously, they did not intend on raping LOT, rather it would have been far worse for him, possibly leading to his death. Because it wasn't LOT that they were wanting to know or his daughters as they were not strangers. Personally, I don't believe it was about sex, as much as it is about power and control. And, I highly doubt that a god would be responsible for the death and destruction of the cities. However, I am sure the story grew over time. Which has been altered to meet the fears and ideologies of religion and its superstition, including its prejudices against homosexual people. A term that wasn't used, until the late 1,800's (which was first recorded in the Bible in 1946). It was only seventy-three years ago that a black man would be executed for having consensual sex with a white woman - they also called that rape. If you live in fear, especially of the unknown you will always act ignorantly. And come up with all kinds of excuses to justify your own thoughts, deeds and actions.
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Originally Posted by The Anointed
Mate, you are entitled to believe whatsoever you choose to believe. You can believe that the two messengers had wings of Gold if you want. but I am not concerned with what you imagine in your own brain, rather I believe that which is supported by the scriptures, which states that those men of Sodom were immoral sexual perverts who lusted after strange flesh, and that their intention was to rape the men in the house of Lot.
BTW, Abraham's nephew Lot, was a stranger living in the town of Sodom.
Enjoy the rest of your day mate.
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yes Jude states it clearly.. Jde 1:7
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication , and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
the Joel is also right in saying that it is fornication...and the ultimate expression of pornography .. not love and not marriage and not adultery..there is no human to human bonding or breaking...
there is only sin/ or demonic..... to human bonding / bondage .and only Jesus can do the breaking and forgiveness of that form of bondage (severing connection to hell and with it ,, the curses, vows and such) Just like the demoniac. and why self-mutilation is on the increase with all such groups...like the demoniac.
I believe you two are perfect for each other, be gentle and loving, caring one for another.
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