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Sodom and Gomorrah were about being wicked to strangers.
1) The 10 Commandments do not say being LGBTQ+ is a sin.
2) Jesus never spoke on LGBTQ+ as a wrong.
3) Many of the LGBTQ+ interpretations that some have with the Bible are waaaayyyy out of context.
The story of Sodom and Gomorrah is to teach us to love for and serve immigrants. We were all strangers to a new land or our ancestors were...literally every human alive today...
Deuteronomy 10:19 You shall also love the stranger, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt.
Matthew 25:35 I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me.
Romans 13:8 Owe no one anything, except to love one another; for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law.
Leviticus 19:34 The alien who resides with you shall be to you as the citizen among you; you shall love the alien as yourself, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.
Ezekiel 47:22 You shall allot it as an inheritance for yourselves and for the aliens who reside among you and have begotten children among you. They shall be to you as citizens of Israel; with you they shall be allotted an inheritance among the tribes of Israel.
Hebrews 13:1-3 Let mutual love continue. Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for by doing that some have entertained angels without knowing it. Remember those who are in prison, as though you were in prison with them; those who are being tortured, as though you yourselves were being tortured.
We are all one...we are to love all and serve all.
He didn't speak of it because He taught out of Torah to Jews to whom the story of Sodom and Gommorah was fresh in their memories, and He didn't have to rebuild the wheel. Context is everything....Blessings....
Wow this sounds like the other posts that give spins on events
it sounds like there was an criminal attempt— by any modern legal definition - assault and battery with the intent of rape —male to male rape regardless of the intention is still homosexual in nature
How do you flip that to a tale of poor hospitality to guests ?
Hospitality is a critical part of mideastern culture
These were not nice people by Any standards of the region
Many rapists in prison do not perceive themselves as homosexual -Yes their self perception - but this does not invalidate the facts of their actions
Your dismissal of this important bible chapter as mearly a story of lack of hospitality is blind to mideastern culture now and then
Hi there Romulus, It might be in your own best interests to do some research on what the scriptures say about the defilement of the Canaanites, which includes the inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah and their surrounding towns
You write that they became 'defiled' because ‘IN ALL LIKELIHOOD’ they worshiped man-made images rather than the one true God.
Well, we are not particularly interested in the erroneous opinions of one who appears to be obsessed in defending the men of Sodom, who attempted to rape Lot and his two male Visitors.
You only know about the destruction of the Canaanite cities of Sodom and Gomorrah and their surrounding towns, because of what is recorded in the scriptures, and those scriptures do not say that the Canaanites became 'defiled' because they worshiped man-made images rather than the one true God, as you would have others believe, in your ignorance to the truths as revealed in scripture, and your defense of the Sodomites.
Here is what the scriptures of which you have proven yourself to be ignorant of, reveal that which had defiled the inhabitants of the land of Canaan…..Leviticus 18: 22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is an abomination. 23 Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is perversion. 24; Do not defile yourselves in any of these ways, because ‘THIS IS HOW THE NATIONS THAT I AM GOING TO DRIVE OUT BEORE YOU, BECAME DEFILED.’
How do the scriptures say that the Canaanites defiled themselves???????
Genesis 6:5 5The LORD saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time.
and then you don't believe that one either...
and so we can with all certainty say that you just "don't believe " any of it .
then stop tell Christians or Jews, what it means.. Because it means nothing to you. and you then defile it with your opinions.. and you have thus no right to form an opinion of it.
because you are no expert of it .. in him or of him or them who wrote it....
yet I find no lies in it.
and you condone woman face as if it it isn't hate and bigotry against real women!!
My statement remains...…. Would you call 'male sex with a member of their own gender,' a heterosexual act? And if not what would you call it when a male sodomizes another male.
There is a vast difference between the natural sexual union of a male and female, and the un-natural sexual union between a male and a member of his own gender.
We call the natural sexual union of a male and female, a heterosexual act. But you cannot call the un-natural sexual union between a male and a member of his own gender a heterosexual act can you? Otherwise you would be revealing your ignorance to all on this forum.
You have just stated that when you mix sex with violence towards an unwilling participant, you have RAPE. And, it doesn't matter if you are heterosexual or homosexual. so you admit that you do know the difference between heterosexuals and Homosexuals.
So then, as you say, when you mix sex with violence towards an unwilling participant, you have RAPE. And, if a male rapes a female, it is heterosexual rape, and if a male rapes a member of his own gender, it is homosexual Rape.
I'm sure someone has pointed this out to you, but just in case:
Homosexuality is "the quality or characteristic of being sexually attracted solely to people of one's own sex".
Rape has nothing to do with attraction, and everything to do with violence and a desire for power over another. There is no such thing, then, as hetero- or homo- rape. It's just rape.
I'm sure someone has pointed this out to you, but just in case:
Homosexuality is "the quality or characteristic of being sexually attracted solely to people of one's own sex".
Rape has nothing to do with attraction, and everything to do with violence and a desire for power over another. There is no such thing, then, as hetero- or homo- rape. It's just rape.
I'm sure someone has pointed this out to you, but just in case:
Homosexuality is "the quality or characteristic of being sexually attracted solely to people of one's own sex".
Rape has nothing to do with attraction, and everything to do with violence and a desire for power over another. There is no such thing, then, as hetero- or homo- rape. It's just rape.
Universal Dictionary......HOMOSEXUAL. . . . .(1) "Characterized by attraction to the same sex." (2) "Of or pertaining to sexual relations between people of the same sex."
Whether it is consensual sex between two members of the same gender, or whether it is forced sex between members of the same gender, it remains a homosexual act.
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Universal Dictionary......HOMOSEXUAL. . . . .(1) "Characterized by attraction to the same sex." (2) "Of or pertaining to sexual relations between people of the same sex."
Whether it is consensual sex between two members of the same gender, or whether it is forced sex between members of the same gender, it remains a homosexual act.
Rape is not “sexual relations between people”. It’s a crime and a violent act perpetrated by an offender on a victim. Its not about attraction, it’s about violence.
I'm sure someone has pointed this out to you, but just in case:
Homosexuality is "the quality or characteristic of being sexually attracted solely to people of one's own sex".
Rape has nothing to do with attraction, and everything to do with violence and a desire for power over another. There is no such thing, then, as hetero- or homo- rape. It's just rape.
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Originally Posted by Pleroo
Rape is not “sexual relations between people”. It’s a crime and a violent act perpetrated by an offender on a victim. Its not about attraction, it’s about violence.
Rape is not “sexual relations between people”. It’s a crime and a violent act perpetrated by an offender on a victim. Its not about attraction, it’s about violence.
The rapists who refused the two young virgins that were offered to them, were certainly attracted to those messengers who were staying in the house of Lot.
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