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If I am speaking, I only have one agenda and it will always be the same agenda because I will always find myself found wanting in the eyes of God, and I am always looking to cover my own sins.
I bet I have been the person who has persuaded at least 20 people to begin having respect for the commandments of God and keeping the feast days of God and I take great pride in this especially because I know it is way more than 20, but if I only could say it was one, I would cover a multitude of sins.
The difference being, whatever holy days and Sabbaths a person keeps, they mark that person, and to persuade a person into just watching and knowing their appointed times puts a protective seal and memorial between their eyes so that God says,'' This one is mine.''
Each person I have changed has changed others and all of this comes from a profound need to cover sins.
Maybe it will balance out for me.
I used to have a felt need for that, instilled in me by my fundamentalist Christian upbringing. I am grateful to have come to the realization that it is not God but humans who, for various reasons, insist that God is angry with us and keeping a record of wrongs against us.
If we both claim to follow Christ then they should be what He unambiguously taught: that love or concern for the well-being of everyone in any situation that is known by it's Greek name: Agape.
If you have a different agenda, you willhave different principles.
Well, I don't remember him teaching that...And I've read the NT several times...
No, it is not, and Jewish thought was moving toward acknowledgement of that principle AS the guiding principle for living in community and away from sacrifices and strict adherence to a set of rules long before Jesus took up the message. Many Jews today realize its importance but still cling to most of the mitzvot as something more than exptession of ethnic identity, and it is those who insist on imposing those forms on the rest of the world who are in error.
Yea, it is...You are being dishonest...
Jews do not impose anything on the rest of world, another thing that you are being dishonest about...
No what I am doing as opposed to what you are doing is recognizing the straightforward meaning of the concept rather than cooking up wild explanations to support my agenda.
What wild explanations?...What are you drinking?...
Jesus does not have a worship system, and that is where you miss the mark. What Jesus has is a Way of life that expresses and IS community with God and man...in spirit and in truth, neither in Jerusalem nor on the mountain.
We call it "the sacramental life."
Sounds like the stuff the hippies spouted in the 60s....
Jews do not impose anything on the rest of world, another thing that you are being dishonest about...
I already noted that what I meant was that the idea of loving our neighbor is not new, not that it was not in the Bible before Jesus.
I don't think I said anything about Jews imposing anything, I said YOU were trying to impose your perceptions on others claiming that it is God's requirements.
What wild explanations?...What are you drinking?...
The explanations you have made before about the meaning of "the letter kills but the spirit gives life." Do I need to look up and cite your inanity or would you actually grace us with your explanation of what you think it DOES mean at this time?
The explanations you have made before about the meaning of "the letter kills but the spirit gives life." Do I need to look up and cite your inanity or would you actually grace us with your explanation of what you think it DOES mean at this time?
If we both claim to follow Christ then they should be what He unambiguously taught: that love or concern for the well-being of everyone in any situation that is known by it's Greek name: Agape.
If you have a different agenda, you will have different principles.
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Originally Posted by Richard1965
Well, I don't remember him teaching that...And I've read the NT several times...
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