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The only sound mind is the mind of Christ and He didn't bash His Father's words, He elevated them. THAT is the mind which was in Christ Jesus. Peace
His Fathers words were not the scriptures. How many times do you need to be told that the scriptures emphatically state that his Father was his source of knowing, and not by the scriptures themselves. Talk about is misrepresenting and adding to the scriptures, you take the biscuit for this. I would be ashamed of myself to do such a thing.
His Fathers words were not the scriptures. How many times do you need to be told that the scriptures emphatically state that his Father was his source of knowing, and not by the scriptures themselves. Talk about is misrepresenting and adding to the scriptures, you take the biscuit for this. I would be ashamed of myself to do such a thing.
And how many times do I have to ask this?
Once again.....WHO was speaking through ALL of them?
Mar 12:36 - For David himself said by the Holy Ghost, The LORD said to my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool.
Act 28:25 - And when they agreed not among themselves, they departed, after that Paul had spoken one word, Well spake the Holy Ghost by Esaias the prophet unto our fathers,
Luk 1:67 - And his father Zacharias (John's father) was filled with the Holy Ghost, and prophesied, saying,
Luk 2:25 - And, behold, there was a man in Jerusalem, whose name was Simeon; and the same man was just and devout, waiting for the consolation of Israel: and the Holy Ghost was upon him.
Luk 2:26 - And it was revealed unto him by the Holy Ghost, that he should not see death, before he had seen the Lord's Christ.
Luk 12:12 - For the Holy Ghost shall teach you in the same hour what ye ought to say.
Act 1:16 - Men and brethren, this scripture must needs have been fulfilled, which the Holy Ghost by the mouth of David spake before concerning Judas, which was guide to them that took Jesus.
Act 5:32 - And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that
His Fathers words were not the scriptures. How many times do you need to be told that the scriptures emphatically state that his Father was his source of knowing, and not by the scriptures themselves. Talk about is misrepresenting and adding to the scriptures, you take the biscuit for this. I would be ashamed of myself to do such a thing.
Again, maybe you need to take a closer look at the truth of the word Daqq shared....
"Stephen says by the context, (and therefore the author, "Luke", likewise says), that the Torah contains the Living Oracles, Living Sayings, Living Words which Moses and the fathers received to give to the people:
Acts 7:37-38
37 This is that same Moshe who said to the sons of Yisrael, "YHWH your Elohim shall raise up a Prophet unto you from among your brethren, like unto me."
38 This is the one who was in the congregation in the desert, with the Messenger-Angel who spoke to him in mount Sinai, and to our fathers, who received Living Oracles [λογια ζωντα] to give to us:
λογια ζωντα = Living Oracles / Living Sayings / Living Words = the Torah
Romans 3:1-2
1 What advantage then has the Yhudi? or what is the profit of circumcision?
2 Much every way: first of all, that they were entrusted with the Oracles of Elohim [τα λογια του θεου].
τα λογια του θεου = the Oracles-Sayings-Words of Elohim(God)
Hebrews 5:12-13
12 For when by reason of the time you ought to be teachers, you rather have need again that someone teach you the rudiments of the first principles of the Oracles of Elohim, [των λογιων του θεου] and are become such as have need of milk, and not of solid food:
13 For every one partaking of milk is inexperienced in theWord of Righteousness, [λογου δικαιοσυνης] for he is a babe.
των λογιων του θεου ~ the Oracles of Elohim(God)
λογου δικαιοσυνης ~ the Word of Righteousness
And by the context:
των λογιων του θεου = λογου δικαιοσυνης
Therefore, I say, the Living Torah is the Living Testimony of the Living Father, and therefore the Living Torah is His Living Son: for Testimony is Spirit according to the Testimony of the Son, (John 6:63). And therefore those who "abolish" the Torah from their own hearts and minds do likewise at the same time "abolish" the Son of Elohim from their own hearts and minds: for the Son of Elohim is himself the Living Oracles, Living Sayings, and Living Words of Elohim which are the Torah. And because of these things having been plainly written, in manifold New Testament passages as shown above: this is the teaching of all of the Apostolic authors and their writings. In other words this is not just "my opinion" but that of Stephen, who according to the author of Acts was full of the Holy Spirit, (even saying that his face shown as that of an angel before the council, Acts 6:15), and therefore it is the "opinion" of the author of Acts, "Luke", and therefore likewise Paul, and likewise the author of the epistle to the Hebrews as shown above, and Peter likewise speaks in the same terms and manner concerning the Oracles of Elohim, (1Peter 4:11). "
Again, maybe you need to take a closer look at the truth of the word Daqq shared....
"Stephen says by the context, (and therefore the author, "Luke", likewise says), that the Torah contains the Living Oracles, Living Sayings, Living Words which Moses and the fathers received to give to the people:
Acts 7:37-38
37 This is that same Moshe who said to the sons of Yisrael, "YHWH your Elohim shall raise up a Prophet unto you from among your brethren, like unto me."
38 This is the one who was in the congregation in the desert, with the Messenger-Angel who spoke to him in mount Sinai, and to our fathers, who received Living Oracles [λογια ζωντα] to give to us:
λογια ζωντα = Living Oracles / Living Sayings / Living Words = the Torah
Romans 3:1-2
1 What advantage then has the Yhudi? or what is the profit of circumcision?
2 Much every way: first of all, that they were entrusted with the Oracles of Elohim [τα λογια του θεου].
τα λογια του θεου = the Oracles-Sayings-Words of Elohim(God)
Hebrews 5:12-13
12 For when by reason of the time you ought to be teachers, you rather have need again that someone teach you the rudiments of the first principles of the Oracles of Elohim, [των λογιων του θεου] and are become such as have need of milk, and not of solid food:
13 For every one partaking of milk is inexperienced in theWord of Righteousness, [λογου δικαιοσυνης] for he is a babe.
των λογιων του θεου ~ the Oracles of Elohim(God)
λογου δικαιοσυνης ~ the Word of Righteousness
And by the context:
των λογιων του θεου = λογου δικαιοσυνης
Therefore, I say, the Living Torah is the Living Testimony of the Living Father, and therefore the Living Torah is His Living Son: for Testimony is Spirit according to the Testimony of the Son, (John 6:63). And therefore those who "abolish" the Torah from their own hearts and minds do likewise at the same time "abolish" the Son of Elohim from their own hearts and minds: for the Son of Elohim is himself the Living Oracles, Living Sayings, and Living Words of Elohim which are the Torah. And because of these things having been plainly written, in manifold New Testament passages as shown above: this is the teaching of all of the Apostolic authors and their writings. In other words this is not just "my opinion" but that of Stephen, who according to the author of Acts was full of the Holy Spirit, (even saying that his face shown as that of an angel before the council, Acts 6:15), and therefore it is the "opinion" of the author of Acts, "Luke", and therefore likewise Paul, and likewise the author of the epistle to the Hebrews as shown above, and Peter likewise speaks in the same terms and manner concerning the Oracles of Elohim, (1Peter 4:11). "
Again I will ask you, are you aware that your bible clearly states the ministry of the Spirit is far more glorious then that which is written? So do you not see it's a no brainer when it comes to which one I turn too?. Clearly from what is being said in 2 Corininthians 3 is that the ministry of the letter and the ministry of the spirit are not only not the same, but one of them is far more glorious .
I gave my Urantia book away...I knew i would never get to it.
Thanks for your input
That's to bad, I have studied the New Testament for years but it was just not enough. I knew there was more to learn about the Fatherhood of God and the Brotherhood of all Mankind. And the Urantia Book answered all my questions. Free will is a wonderful thing!
God give you the free will to read anything you want, don't call something "demonic" that you have never read and know nothing about. Peace!
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