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"But God, who is rich in mercy, for His great love wherewith He loved us.' -Eph. 2:4
The Love of God is great. It is megas in degree & intensity, size & measure.
"It wasn’t so long ago that you were mired in that old stagnant life of sin. You let the world, which doesn’t know the first thing about living, tell you how to live. You filled your lungs with polluted unbelief, and then exhaled disobedience. We all did it, all of us doing what we felt like doing, when we felt like doing it, all of us in the same boat. It’s a wonder God didn’t lose his temper and do away with the whole lot of us.
Instead, immense in mercy and with an incredible love, he embraced us.
He took our sin-dead lives and made us alive in Christ. He did all this on his own, with no help from us! Then he picked us up and set us down in highest heaven in company with Jesus, our Messiah." -The Message-
I read on another forum, that God will not violate our free wills by forcing us to come Him. These things come to my mind when I hear this.
How can God violate something that belongs to Him? Our wills, our lives ultimately belong to the Creator.
Ephesians says that He works all things according to His own will, so this means that even our wills are subject to His. He temporarily gives us the ability to reject Him but in the end, all will be made subject to Him. (Hebrews 1) He will subdue all things to Himself and this has nothing to do with violation of our wills. He is able to bring all wills into alignment with His Sovereign will.
He has every right to influence our wills for good.
Parents do this to their children. They model, teach, correct.
As a believer who holds to Christian Universalism, I believe that God does this and He does this effectively.
He has all wisdom and He knows exactly what to do.
It is not wrong for the Creator to effectively show everyone the error of his or her way.
It is not wrong for the Creator to remove all binders and blinders, to open all eyes to the truth.
It is not wrong for the Creator to persuade and convince all that they are lost and in need of a Savior.
It is not wrong for Him to destroy the sinner to change the sinner to heal the sinner.
If someone sets out to undertake a project and he or she successfully completes it, would we not say that the person is successful?
If someone makes plans to design a building and if all things work out the way that he or she intends, would we not say that the person is successful?
If a teacher creates a lesson plan and effectively teaches all students so that all of them learn what the teacher wanted them to learn, would we not say that the teacher was successful?
If God sent Jesus to be the Savior of the world, to reconcile all to Himself through Jesus, and if all come to believe in Him and return to Him, would we not say that God was successful accomplishing what He wanted when He sent Jesus?
Psalm 22:27 All the ends of the earth will remember and turn to the Lord, And all the families of the nations will worship before You.
That is not wrong.
God bless.
Last edited by ShanaBrown; 02-07-2020 at 08:16 AM..
I read on another forum, that God will not violate our free wills by forcing us to come Him. These things come to my mind when I hear this.
How can God violate something that belongs to Him? Our wills, our lives ultimately belong to the Creator.
Ephesians says that He works all things according to His own will, so this means that even our wills are subject to His. He temporarily gives us the ability to reject Him but in the end, all will be made subject to Him. (Hebrews 1) He will subdue all things to Himself and this has nothing to do with violation of our wills. He is able to bring all wills into alignment with His Sovereign will.
He has every right to influence our wills for good.
Parents do this to their children. They model, teach, correct.
As a believer who holds to Christian Universalism, I believe that God does this and He does this effectively.
He has all wisdom and He knows exactly what to do.
It is not wrong for the Creator to effectively show everyone the error of his or way.
It is not wrong for the Creator to remove all binders and blinders, to open all eyes to the truth.
It is not wrong for the Creator to persuade and convince all that they are lost and in need of a Savior.
It is not wrong for Him to destroy the sinner to change the sinner to heal the sinner.
If someone set out to undertake a project and he or she successful complete it, would we not say that the person is successful?
If someone makes plans to design a building and if all things work out the way that he or she intended, would we not say that the person is successful?
If a teacher creates a lesson plan and effectively teaches all students so that all of them learn what the teacher wanted them to learn, would we not say that the teacher was successful?
If God sent Jesus to be the Savior of the world, to reconcile all to Himself through Jesus, and if all come to believe in Him and return to Him, would we not say that God was successful accomplishing what He wanted when He sent Jesus?
Psalm 22:27 All the ends of the earth will remember and turn to the Lord, And all the families of the nations will worship before You.
Shana: I read that creation was made subject to futility "not willingly" but by "reason of Him". These wee wills of ours are destined to be swallowed up in the Will of all wills as the Author becomes the Finisher. Much blessing to you & all those who long for His consummation!
Dear Shana: if much more blessing descends on me I will be totally enraptured.( LOL)
Salvation is an on-going experience in our Glorious Father in the past, present & future tenses. He calls it salvation, at-one-ment, change & transformation of the whole broken man (Adam1). The Last Adam meets the entire broken mass of mankind in the despair of Adam, with the "all the more" of His prevailing answer!
Adam1 = the many/polus "made sinners" >>>>Last Adam = the many/polus "made righteous".
This is the God equation, equal on both sides with "all the more" dominating in the Saviour of the all, the Lord Jesus Christ!
“So Moses said, “This is what the Lord says: ‘About midnight I will go throughout Egypt. Every firstborn son in Egypt will die, from the firstborn son of Pharaoh, who sits on the throne, to the firstborn son of the female slave, who is at her hand mill, and all the firstborn of the cattle as well. There will be loud wailing throughout Egypt—worse than there has ever been or ever will be again. But among the Israelites not a dog will bark at any person or animal.’ Then you will know that the Lord makes a distinction between Egypt and Israel.”
**Exodus *11:4-7 *NIV
Dear Shana: if much more blessing descends on me I will be totally enraptured.( LOL)
Salvation is an on-going experience in our Glorious Father in the past, present & future tenses. He calls it salvation, at-one-ment, change & transformation of the whole broken man (Adam1). The Last Adam meets the entire broken mass of mankind in the despair of Adam, with the "all the more" of His prevailing answer!
Adam1 = the many/polus "made sinners" >>>>Last Adam = the many/polus "made righteous".
This is the God equation, equal on both sides with "all the more" dominating in the Saviour of the all, the Lord Jesus Christ!
“So Moses said, “This is what the Lord says: ‘About midnight I will go throughout Egypt. Every firstborn son in Egypt will die, from the firstborn son of Pharaoh, who sits on the throne, to the firstborn son of the female slave, who is at her hand mill, and all the firstborn of the cattle as well. There will be loud wailing throughout Egypt—worse than there has ever been or ever will be again. But among the Israelites not a dog will bark at any person or animal.’ Then you will know that the Lord makes a distinction between Egypt and Israel.”
**Exodus *11:4-7 *NIV
Jesus died for both Israel and the Egyptians. It is His good pleasure to reconcile all to Himself. (Colossians 1) This is why Christian Universalism is true God bless.
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