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Pretend you actually understand what I believe is the true state of our Reality as described briefly here:
Assuming you have remotely grasped it with your modern mind, how exactly would you EVER get them to understand ANY of that given their lack of knowledge and barbaric beliefs about God, especially just after emerging from the schoolmaster stage where they were thoroughly indoctrinated into a fear of God and damnation???? The version you believe in was designed for a very primitive mind, Charlie. It should not resonate with your modern mind which is why I am so puzzled by it.
it is matter of spiritual vision of God : a fearsome God per ancient psi op designed to keep your from moving over to Moloch and rather listen to the Commandments, or realizing beauty of God's purpose and Agape, both versions exist in two different spiritual developments...both versions are real.
It seems to me Jesus was also "thoroughly indoctrinated in the fear of God and damnation!"
He had much to say about "fear and damnation" but Mystic says no, that's not scripture, ignore that!
No, Charlie, Jesus was not indoctrinated, but His people at the time were and that determined how He had to appeal to them to reach them. That is also why He often said, "those who have the ears to hear and the eyes to see" because there were very few of them who did. You seem to have a similar mind and motivation to those who believed in Moloch and sacrificed their babies to appease him. They had to be terrified into not doing that. Perhaps that is why the dogma works with you.
No, Charlie, Jesus was not indoctrinated, but His people at the time were and that determined how He had to appeal to them to reach them. That is also why He often said, "those who have the ears to hear and the eyes to see" because there were very few of them who did. You seem to have a similar mind and motivation to those who believed in Moloch and sacrificed their babies to appease him. They had to be terrified into not doing that. Perhaps that is why the dogma works with you.
No Mystic, you have no time for scripture and put if down at every opportunity to support your false UR stand. The scripture doesn't support that Junk and we can't have that can we?
So you put to shame our Lord by ignoring and even denying His words in scripture and call yourself a Christian. I've never known a Christian that has the view of scripture that you have.
No Mystic, you have no time for scripture and put if down at every opportunity to support your false UR stand. The scripture doesn't support that Junk and we can't have that can we?
So you put to shame our Lord by ignoring and even denying His words in scripture and call yourself a Christian. I've never known a Christian that has the view of scripture that you have.
Then you must not know many Christians who actually BELIEVE CHRIST.
Then you must not know many Christians who actually BELIEVE CHRIST.
Meeting Jesus in meditation is highly unlikely since He told us who and how He would reveal Himself to.
“The man who keeps the commandments he has from me is the man who loves me and the man who loves me will be loved by my Father, I too shall love him and reveal myself to him.”
“The LORD is the God of the living not of the dead. “
No Mystic, you have no time for scripture and put if down at every opportunity to support your false UR stand. The scripture doesn't support that Junk and we can't have that can we?
So you put to shame our Lord by ignoring and even denying His words in scripture and call yourself a Christian. I've never known a Christian that has the view of scripture that you have.
Extreme fundamentalists such as yourself are an embarrassment to Christianity, calling what Jesus set out to do, and accomplish as "junk?" You not only put him to shame, you shame yourself in the process. Woe to you Pharisees and hypocrites. You shut the kingdom of heaven in men's faces. Yet, you yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to. You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one; you make him twice as much a son of hell as that of yourselves. Woe to you, blind guides!
Charlie, you are the one denying the Scriptures with your false teachings of hell and damnation.
Extreme fundamentalists such as yourself are an embarrassment to Christianity, calling what Jesus set out to do, and accomplish as "junk?" You not only put him to shame, you shame yourself in the process. Woe to you Pharisees and hypocrites. You shut the kingdom of heaven in men's faces. Yet, you yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to. You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one; you make him twice as much a son of hell as that of yourselves. Woe to you, blind guides!
Charlie, you are the one denying the Scriptures with your false teachings of hell and damnation.
It is more about not understanding what/where the hell and damnation refers to
It is not about any place for the physical/individual after our natural death
It is about where the people who are called to be part of Christianity have willingly descended to, submitting to the yoke that is placed on them by the theological and philosophical men where they set up imitations of the Church structures that had their reasons for having them (ordinances, rituals) they have become circus type places and this has happened since the 1500’s Protestant movement.
The theological, philosophical, have had a purpose at specific “times” relating to the different seasons but we are not to be in service to them
This is spoken of in the OT and NT
We are to be aware and awake and not sleeping on the job or dead in a grave when the “time” comes
No, I am convinced that I actually met Jesus in deep meditation and He is EXACTLY as HE revealed and unambiguously demonstrated Himself to be. The agape love He demonstrated is not remotely compatible with the satanic crap you believe about Him and God. You are in satanic delusion, not denial.
Since the religions of the world are what is satanic, and you learned your meditation techniques from those religions, I would say that you have been given an inaccurate revelation of who God is through your eastern meditation techniques.
How do you know about the agape love that Jesus demonstrated?
Why is it that you pick and choose, based on your own feeling and bias, what you want to believe is true in the word of the Lord and reject that which is not palatable to you?
It is smorgasborg religion, I tell you!
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Originally Posted by Jerwade
This reveals that you know not the Scriptures, and are merely being ignorant.
He most certainly does know the scriptures. I find that in denying that there are 70+ verses about hell, you are being ignorant of those verses; for you are ignoring them as though they were not in holy scripture.
Extreme fundamentalists such as yourself are an embarrassment to Christianity, calling what Jesus set out to do, and accomplish as "junk?" You not only put him to shame, you shame yourself in the process. Woe to you Pharisees and hypocrites. You shut the kingdom of heaven in men's faces. Yet, you yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to. You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one; you make him twice as much a son of hell as that of yourselves. Woe to you, blind guides!
Charlie, you are the one denying the Scriptures with your false teachings of hell and damnation.
Now, we are not hindering anyone from entering in to the kingdom; in fact we are attempting to hand salvation to you on a silver platter.
But it seems to me that you are unwilling to receive that salvation; which comes as easy as pie.
Jhn 1:12, But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
Rom 10:9, That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:10, For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Rom 10:11, For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
Rom 10:12, For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
Rom 10:13, For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Of course you need to receive the correct Jesus; as He is described to you in the word of the Lord (the Holy Bible).
2Co 11:3, But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
2Co 11:4, For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
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