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Old 07-06-2021, 09:05 PM
 
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The fatal flaw in that approach is that you fail to TEST whether or not what you quote IS the truth. You just blindly accept that it is and ignore the main source of TRUTH we have about God - Jesus Christ the Word of God Himself!!!
There you go, according to Mystic the scripture has to be tested for containing truth.

I suppose God gave us Mystic to pick that truth from scripture for us.

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Last edited by mensaguy; 07-07-2021 at 09:07 AM.. Reason: You don't need to question another Christian's faith.
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Old 07-06-2021, 10:03 PM
 
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There is that childish rote repetition. Alternatives would include meaningful learning, associative learning, and active learning. Instead of memorization. You know, where you actually learn something, other than the alphabet and your numbers. Perhaps one day you will go for a deeper understanding, allowing for complex connections between previous and new knowledge. But I won't hold my breath.
I do meditate on the word of God in my spare time and contemplate its deeper meanings, btw, according to Psalms 1.

Especially when scriptures contrast each other, I take the time to discern what is the deeper meaning, by combining such scriptures and also determining what other scriptures I can bring to bear on that apparent contradiction so that there is reconciliation between the scriptures that might otherwise contradict each other.

In such kinds of situations, I have come to find greater insight into what the scriptures mean as they apply to one another.

This is what Paul meant when he wrote,

1Co 2:13, Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
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Old 07-07-2021, 02:56 AM
 
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Does that scripture quoting remind you of what Christ quoted to Satan while being tempted?

It's basically the same thing we are doing here, using the truth to counter the lies.
Satan is the lie that you swallowed, hook, line, and sinker, along with that hell doctrine.
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Old 07-07-2021, 03:34 AM
 
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There is that childish rote repetition. Alternatives would include meaningful learning, associative learning, and active learning. Instead of memorization. You know, where you actually learn something, other than the alphabet and your numbers. Perhaps one day you will go for a deeper understanding, allowing for complex connections between previous and new knowledge. But I won't hold my breath.
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I do meditate on the word of God in my spare time and contemplate its deeper meanings, btw, according to Psalms 1.

Especially when scriptures contrast each other, I take the time to discern what is the deeper meaning, by combining such scriptures and also determining what other scriptures I can bring to bear on that apparent contradiction so that there is reconciliation between the scriptures that might otherwise contradict each other.

In such kinds of situations, I have come to find greater insight into what the scriptures mean as they apply to one another.

This is what Paul meant when he wrote,

1Co 2:13, Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
You can't make the same mistake twice, the second time you make it, it's no longer a mistake; it's something you have chosen. And, you are merely acting the fool, who truly has no discernment at all.
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Old 07-07-2021, 08:50 AM
 
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I do meditate on the word of God in my spare time and contemplate its deeper meanings, btw, according to Psalms 1.

Especially when scriptures contrast each other, I take the time to discern what is the deeper meaning, by combining such scriptures and also determining what other scriptures I can bring to bear on that apparent contradiction so that there is reconciliation between the scriptures that might otherwise contradict each other.

In such kinds of situations, I have come to find greater insight into what the scriptures mean as they apply to one another.

This is what Paul meant when he wrote,

1Co 2:13, Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
Those who can't understand what you are saying here have no desire for the truth. They don't search for the truth they make up their own truth, the way they see it through their own eyes, the so-called wisdom of man.

The truth they have no knowledge and have no desire for it! They choose to fight the truth because it's not the way they see it. God is subject to them, what they think and desire.

This is how they change the truth of God's word into a lie!
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Old 07-07-2021, 09:40 AM
 
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Those who can't understand what you are saying here have no desire for the truth. They don't search for the truth they make up their own truth, the way they see it through their own eyes, the so-called wisdom of man.

The truth they have no knowledge and have no desire for it! They choose to fight the truth because it's not the way they see it. God is subject to them, what they think and desire.

This is how they change the truth of God's word into a lie!
Religion is based on belief, not empirical evidence or fact.
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Old 07-07-2021, 10:01 AM
 
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Is the Bible the word of God? No, it's the perceptions of men over time; a belief.
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Old 07-07-2021, 10:54 AM
 
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The fatal flaw in that approach is that you fail to TEST whether or not what you quote IS the truth. You just blindly accept that it is and ignore the main source of TRUTH we have about God - Jesus Christ the Word of God Himself!!!
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There you go, according to Mystic the scripture has to be tested for containing truth.

I suppose God gave us Mystic to pick that truth from scripture for us.

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No, Charlie. As you have been told REPEATEDLY, It is NOT according to Mystic. It is according to JESUS and God's Holy Spirit of agape love. God gave us JESUS to pick and determine what is truth and scripture so we can properly divide the word of God from the word of man. You do NOT do that. You accept it all without testing it against the Holy Spirit of agape love.
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Old 07-07-2021, 10:57 AM
 
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Is the Bible the word of God? No, it's the perceptions of men over time; a belief.
It is a mixture, Jer, produced by the ignorant, flawed, and fallible beliefs of men.
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Old 07-07-2021, 11:49 AM
 
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Is the Bible the word of God? No, it's the perceptions of men over time; a belief.
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It is a mixture, Jer, produced by the ignorant, flawed, and fallible beliefs of men.
I understand that, but see it more as inspirational, not the inerrant or infallible word of God.
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