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Does not the scripture say that "it pleased God to bruise Him?"
That is the agape love of God for mankind!
They believed that about EVERYTHING that ever happened, Charlie. For our ancestors (and some modern troglodytes) NOTHING ever happened that did not please God or satisfy His wrath. (BTW, why would it please Him and not appease His wrath???) It pleased Him because He was saving us all by His achievement of PERFECT agape love in His HUMAN consciousness!!! That IS the agape love of God for mankind!
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Doesn't the scripture also say, "He laid on Him the iniquity of us all?"
He took the responsibility on Himself for our continuing failures even to try to achieve permanent connection with God's perfect agape love ("missing the mark"). He did it by becoming human and doing it for us as a human and then abiding with us as our guide (Comforter).
They believed that about EVERYTHING that ever happened, Charlie. For our ancestors (and some modern troglodytes) NOTHING ever happened that did not please God or satisfy His wrath. (BTW, why would it please Him and not appease His wrath???) It pleased Him because He was saving us all by His achievement of PERFECT agape love in His HUMAN consciousness!!! That IS the agape love of God for mankind!
He took the responsibility on Himself for our continuing failures even to try to achieve permanent connection with God's perfect agape love ("missing the mark"). He did it by becoming human and doing it for us as a human and then abiding with us as our guide (Comforter).
You do not understand nor will you try to understand that God wants man to come to Him of his own free will! Man has a choice, if he refuses to be washed in the Blood and thereby become a new man, coming back in relationship with God, the consequences are plain, God will give that person what they have chosen, eternal separation from Him.
Let it be known to all, I reject your false theology of who God is and His plan for mankind!
They believed that about EVERYTHING that ever happened, Charlie. For our ancestors (and some modern troglodytes) NOTHING ever happened that did not please God or satisfy His wrath. (BTW, why would it please Him and not appease His wrath???) It pleased Him because He was saving us all by His achievement of PERFECT agape love in His HUMAN consciousness!!! That IS the agape love of God for mankind!
He took the responsibility on Himself for our continuing failures even to try to achieve a permanent connection with God's perfect agape love ("missing the mark"). He did it by becoming human and doing it for us as a human and then abiding with us as our guide (Comforter).
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Originally Posted by Charlie24
You do not understand nor will you try to understand that God wants man to come to Him of his own free will! Man has a choice, if he refuses to be washed in the Blood and thereby become a new man, coming back in relationship with God, the consequences are plain, God will give that person what they have chosen, eternal separation from Him.
Why on earth would God want us to believe that evil and barbarous nonsense instead of the agape love and forgiveness Jesus demonstrated on the Cross???? Which do you consider Good News, Charlie? The Godfather threat of believing this barbaric crap OR ELSE suffering eternal hell and damnation or the promise of our Father God that we will be with Him because Jesus did for us what we could not do?
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Let it be known to all, I reject your false theology of who God is and His plan for mankind!
It is not my theology, Charlie. It is what Jesus ACTUALLY revealed on the Cross about God's True Nature. You continue to believe in our ancestors' wrathful vengeful God and promote your fear doctrine at your own peril. Gospel is supposed to be Good News, Charlie. God wants us to love one another, not threaten one another!
And, yea, your “scriptures†clearly portray the Romans hanging him on that cross, not the Jews...
According to Acts 2:23 the Jews used the Romans to put Jesus to death.
Acts 2:23 this man, delivered over by the predetermined plan and foreknowledge of God, you nailed to a cross by the hands of godless men and put Him to death.
Why on earth would God want us to believe that evil and barbarous nonsense instead of the agape love and forgiveness Jesus demonstrated on the Cross???? Which do you consider Good News, Charlie? The Godfather threat of believing this barbaric crap OR ELSE suffering eternal hell and damnation or the promise of our Father God that we will be with Him because Jesus did for us what we could not do? It is not my theology, Charlie. It is what Jesus ACTUALLY revealed on the Cross about God's True Nature. You continue to believe in our ancestors' wrathful vengeful God and promote your fear doctrine at your own peril. Gospel is supposed to be Good News, Charlie. God wants us to love one another, not threaten one another!
Oh but it is your theology, Mystic! You have reinterpreted scripture and set guidelines based on how you will accept God. If He doesn't meet those guidelines He is not your God!
Better give some serious thought as to what you are doing my friend!
Oh but it is your theology, Mystic! You have reinterpreted scripture and set guidelines based on how you will accept God. If He doesn't meet those guidelines He is not your God!
Better give some serious thought as to what you are doing my friend!
You keep saying this irritating crap when you have been told repeatedly that it is JESUS CHRIST who set the guidelines for interpreting God in scripture, Charlie, NOT ME!!!
You keep saying this irritating crap when you have been told repeatedly that it is JESUS CHRIST who set the guidelines for interpreting God in scripture, Charlie, NOT ME!!!
You have said yourself you have reinterpreted the scripture.
Your entire doctrine is reinterpreting the scripture.
But now it's Jesus Christ who sets the guidelines.
You have said yourself you have reinterpreted the scripture.
Your entire doctrine is reinterpreting the scripture.
But now it's Jesus Christ who sets the guidelines.
It is, was, and always has been God's Holy Spirit of agape love and forgiveness revealed and demonstrated by Jesus Christ on the Cross that set the guidelines! That is HOW I determine what has been properly interpreted scripture and what is misinterpreted under the veil of ignorance from reading the OT and Moses.
It is, was, and always has been God's Holy Spirit of agape love and forgiveness revealed and demonstrated by Jesus Christ on the Cross that set the guidelines! That is HOW I determine what has been properly interpreted scripture and what is misinterpreted under the veil of ignorance from reading the OT and Moses.
The guidelines you have received have told you we have done nothing that needs forgiveness.
Acts 13:38-39
"Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins:
And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses."
Tell us, Mystic, is Paul lying here? Is this another passage of scripture you will declare unworthy of your Gospel?
The guidelines you have received have told you we have done nothing that needs forgiveness.
Acts 13:38-39
"Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins:
And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses."
Tell us, Mystic, is Paul lying here? Is this another passage of scripture you will declare unworthy of your Gospel?
Paul is not lying, but your interpretation of what he is saying is misguided. What was the reason they could not be justified by the law of Moses, Charlie? They couldn't keep the laws perfectly. But what Jesus did on the Cross perfectly kept the actual purpose of them all -- love of God and each other. That is called fulfilling the purpose of the law making it no longer a failing of humans (sins of mankind) because Jesus did it as a human thereby justifying all humans. (That is also known as connecting us all permanently with God's perfect agape love.)
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