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Old 05-06-2014, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Cumberland County, NJ
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Chicago will most likely keep the 3 spot for 30 years in my opinion. It not that Houston won't grow, its just that I Chicago will continue to have steady growth that will keep it ahead of Houston for a while.
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Old 05-07-2014, 01:32 PM
 
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Here's the deal with density figures for Houston. Houston cam really be looked at as 2 different cities. What I call the city is the "inner-loop" which is stylistically, politically different and is WAY more dense. Inside the loop you will find most of the walkable parts of the city- downtown, midtown, museum district, the Village, the Universities (UH, TEXAS SOUTHERN and Rice), etc.

Outside the loop is where you start to see incredibly less density, differnt political views on everything (including urbanity) and except for a few pockets ..there are less walkable areas outside the loop.

Anyone who has lived in Houston for any amount of time easily knows the difference between the Inner Loopers and the suburbanite Houstonians.
Y'all kill me by not including TxSU. Carry on.
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Old 05-07-2014, 06:13 PM
 
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its just that I Chicago will continue to have steady growth that will keep it ahead of Houston for a while.
Chicago metro is currently barely growing. I believe it was the slowest growing major metro in the U.S. the last few years.

That said, Houston still has quite a ways to go to top Chicago. It will take decades rather than years.
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Old 05-07-2014, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Chicago metro is currently barely growing. I believe it was the slowest growing major metro in the U.S. the last few years.

That said, Houston still has quite a ways to go to top Chicago. It will take decades rather than years.
And of course, over those decades population growth trends will most surely change.
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Old 05-07-2014, 06:42 PM
 
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And of course, over those decades population growth trends will most surely change.
True. Past results are no guarantee of future results.
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Old 05-07-2014, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Cumberland County, NJ
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Chicago metro is currently barely growing. I believe it was the slowest growing major metro in the U.S. the last few years.

That said, Houston still has quite a ways to go to top Chicago. It will take decades rather than years.
As far as metro areas go, I don't think the Houston MSA will ever surpass Chicagoland in population unless a natural disaster happens.
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Old 05-07-2014, 06:59 PM
 
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As far as metro areas go, I don't think the Houston MSA will ever surpass Chicagoland in population unless a natural disaster happens.
At current rates, it would take a few decades. I think it's likely, but in 20-30 years.
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Old 05-07-2014, 07:04 PM
 
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At current rates, it would take a few decades. I think it's likely, but in 20-30 years.
I highly doubt that. The entire Chicago MSA would have to stop growing or lose population over the next 20-30 years and Houston's high growth rates won't go on forever. It will slow down eventually like other larger metro areas of NYC, Los Angeles, and Philadelphia.
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Old 05-07-2014, 07:17 PM
 
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I highly doubt that. The entire Chicago MSA would have to stop growing or lose population over the next 20-30 years and Houston's high growth rates won't go on forever. It will slow down eventually like other larger metro areas of NYC, Los Angeles, and Philadelphia.
But the entire Chicago MSA has basically stopped growing.

And there's no reason to think that Houston will stop growing. Why would it?

And NYC and LA have the #2 and #3 growth in the U.S., after Houston. They're much bigger than Houston, yet main the same population growth as Houston. Why can't Houston do the same as it grows, especially since its much smaller?

Philly growth is very slow, and not like that of NYC and LA.
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Old 05-07-2014, 07:27 PM
 
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But the entire Chicago MSA has basically stopped growing.

And there's no reason to think that Houston will stop growing. Why would it?

And NYC and LA have the #2 and #3 growth in the U.S., after Houston. They're much bigger than Houston, yet main the same population growth as Houston. Why can't Houston do the same as it grows, especially since its much smaller?

Philly growth is very slow, and not like that of NYC and LA.
Right now, yes. In the 80's it hardly grew at all, in the 90's it grew by a million, in the 2000's it grew by 350,000, now it's in a serious lull, mostly because of the state financial situation and the pension situation in the city that's stopping confidence. It's always changing based on what's going on, the economy, etc. Every city ebbs and flows. Booming cities don't boom FOREVER.
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