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Old 05-06-2014, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Sure try 2455 Dunstan Rd Houston, TX

Also this is being built next to it.

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Old 05-06-2014, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Here's a few more.

City Centre (West Houston)


Willowick Park U/C

Azalea Court U/C
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Old 05-06-2014, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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^ These are not bad and more urban than other stuff but I wouldn't call it very very urban. The second one looks somewhat suburban (within the context of a metro area). That one doesn't really show any walkability. The first picture shows walkability the best.
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Old 05-06-2014, 08:20 PM
 
Location: The City
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^^^ not to nitpick but honestly all these images look more like faux new urbanist development in TODs and suburbs than urban development. The street interface looks awful - this looks like development in Reston VA not a city
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Old 05-06-2014, 08:24 PM
 
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^^^ not to nitpick but honestly all these images look more like faux new urbanist development in TODs and suburbs than urban development. The street interface looks awful - this looks like development in Reston VA not a city
Yeah, though the first one looks alright - but the second one is awful - not sure why that was shown. That's not walkable at all or at least it doesn't show it. The last one does remind me of something in northern VA as you state. Kind of like "let's plop this development of 500 units down with 10 cafes and a few bars and call it walkable." It may be but once you get outside of that - there's no connection to anything. I guess at least it's a start?
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Old 05-06-2014, 08:27 PM
 
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Yeah it's a start, nothing glamous of course. But just demonstrating some of the urban projects going on in Houston. My gripe just like other Houstonains is the lack of retail. This does help Houston in the long run as we progress and densify in the coming years.
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Old 05-06-2014, 08:32 PM
 
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Yeah it's a start, nothing glamous of course. But just demonstrating some of the urban projects going on in Houston. My gripe just like other Houstonains is the lack of retail. This does help Houston in the long run as we progress and densify in the coming years.
It is a start - even if they look a little suburban - it's better than some stuff but they will hopefully learn over time on how to do this stuff. You first have to sell people on the idea of walkability and urbanity. It's not for everyone, but if you can demonstrate to people how it can be awesome then people sometimes do change how they think of that.
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Old 05-06-2014, 08:39 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Yeah, though the first one looks alright - but the second one is awful - not sure why that was shown. That's not walkable at all or at least it doesn't show it. The last one does remind me of something in northern VA as you state. Kind of like "let's plop this development of 500 units down with 10 cafes and a few bars and call it walkable." It may be but once you get outside of that - there's no connection to anything. I guess at least it's a start?
I think it's pretty obvious that Houston lacks any sort of urban cohesion. There are a few tiny sparks of urbanity that are quickly extinguished in the vast sea of SFHs, strip malls, surface lots and multi-lane highways. But yes it's a start, and maybe in 100 years if it continues to move in the right direction it will look more like LA than Phoenix.

I don't mean to be overly critical, but it is what it is. I am sure that in many other ways Houston has much to offer (people wouldn't be moving there in droves otherwise).
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Old 05-06-2014, 08:49 PM
 
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Sure try 2455 Dunstan Rd Houston, TX
I'm not seeing urbanity here. It looks like any older suburb in the Sunbelt.

The neighborhood seems to be mostly parking lots and strip malls, with a handful of apartment buildings. I see basically no pedestrians, and nothing without attached parking.

Again, looks like an older suburb of LA to me. Could be Northern Orange County, or some place in LA County around 20 miles from downtown.

What's really scary about the fact you chose this address is that it's right next to University of Houston. So this is actually a university district, not even a typical neighborhood. Any random university town will have more walkable retail.

I would say this neighborhood could one day be semi-urban, but it would probably take 50-100 years minimum, and even then, it would still be pretty auto-oriented and not very desirable for anyone used to older cities.
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Old 05-06-2014, 09:05 PM
 
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I'm not seeing urbanity here. It looks like any older suburb in the Sunbelt.
Yeah it looks like an older suburb in a larger metro area that has a few new developments. Not that city-like.
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