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It is no where even close and Houston would basically have to tear down and start again to reach the urbanity of chicago
Agreed. Houston may pass Chicago in population and economy, but will never come remotely close in urbanity, at least not in our lifetimes.
The "urbanity" they're building in Houston's Inner Loop is basically denser suburban growth (townhouses, infill homes, apartments wrapped around a parking garage). It isn't very similar to the urban form you see in core Chicago.
Core Chicago's inner density isn't perfect either (way too many parking garages, strip malls and the like), but still is many, many times better than that of Houston.
Smh H'Ton didn't post that to say that it would come close to Chicago's urbanity. He only posted the developments in Houston that is improving on urbanity and walkable hoods. There's just no pleasing some people. And Houston shouldn't build it's urban environment similar to Chicago anyway.
Smh H'Ton didn't post that to say that it would come close to Chicago's urbanity. He only posted the developments in Houston that is improving on urbanity and walkable hoods.
But the point is that Houston isn't really building anything urban. They're building some townhouses and stuff, which is typical in the suburbs. There's basically no urbanity (of the traditional, walkable, transit-oriented sort) in Houston.
Really if you live in that part of the country, and want a walkable environment, New Orleans is your best bet, by far.
But the point is that Houston isn't really building anything urban. They're building some townhouses and stuff, which is typical in the suburbs. There's basically no urbanity (of the traditional, walkable, transit-oriented sort) in Houston.
Really if you live in that part of the country, and want a walkable environment, New Orleans is your best bet, by far.
I don't agree that Houston isn't building anything urban. Actually, I would bet most of the what is going up in the inner loop (which is where I focus on) are midrise apartments. The townhomes that are going up are Los Angeles like. Dense with some being walkable and some not. Of course New Orleans is more urban than Houston. It's older and more established. Does not mean other cities are not building their own style of a walkable urban area.
I Of course New Orleans is more urban than Houston. It's older and more established. Does not mean other cities are not building their own style of a walkable urban area.
Well this is where we have disagreement. Even New Orleans is like 90% sprawl and maybe 10% walkable, and even NOLA is like 10 times more urban-friendly than Houston. Townhouses and suburban-style apartment buildings with wraparound parking aren't going to create an urban environment.
Well this is where we have disagreement. Even New Orleans is like 90% sprawl and maybe 10% walkable, and even NOLA is like 10 times more urban-friendly than Houston. Townhouses and suburban-style apartment buildings with wraparound parking aren't going to create an urban environment.
What townhomes and suburban style apartment buildings with wraparound parking is going up in Houston? Notice, I said the inner loop as I believe this is the only area that has a chance to create a consistent dense and urban environment in the city. But what wraparound parking is going up in this part of the city.
What townhomes and suburban style apartment buildings with wraparound parking is going up in Houston? Notice, I said the inner loop as I believe this is the only area that has a chance to create a consistent dense and urban environment in the city. But what wraparound parking is going up in this part of the city.
Could you please point us to a neighborhood in Houston on Google streetmaps where this claimed urban development exists?
And you sound extremely extremely unfamiliar with Houston if you think there are no townhomes or parking in Houston.
Because all I see townhouses and apartments/wraparound parking as the absolute best urban infill in Houston. The worst is basically McMansions in the inner city, which is even more common.
Could you please point us to a neighborhood in Houston on Google streetmaps where this claimed urban development exists?
And you are extremely unfamiliar with Houston if you think there are no townhomes or parking in Houston.
Because all I see townhouses and apartments/wraparound parking as the absolute best urban infill in Houston. The worst is basically McMansions in the inner city, which is even more common.
Just go to the Houston development maps on SSP. I see no wrap around parking apartments going up inside 610.
This link is basically the type of development around the inner loop that's going up. *shrugs*
In other words, you refuse to answer the question, because you know you're making up stuff. And that pic could be in any new urbanist suburb anywhere.
Again, please tell us one of these urban neighborhoods in Houston you're referring to, so we can see for ourselves on Google maps. Just one neighborhood, please. At least give us an intersection of claimed urbanity.
I'm pretty sure the rules of the forum are that you can't link to SSP, which is why he said to go there.
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