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Old 05-05-2014, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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In other words, you refuse to answer the question, because you know you're making up stuff. And that pic could be in any new urbanist suburb anywhere.

Again, please tell us one of these urban neighborhoods in Houston you're referring to, so we can see for ourselves on Google maps. Just one neighborhood, please. At least give us an intersection of claimed urbanity.
I'm not making anything up for one. I didn't post pics because it would be against the rules. I told you I only focused on the inner loop which is everything inside loop 610. While that could be new urbanist anywhere, the point is that it is walkable, and increases the density for the area which was H'ton's main point. It is you who took it to meaning like Houston was trying to build like Chicago when that wasn't his point.
Again, for the fourth time, look at the inner loop and most of the developments inside the loop. If you're acting like Houston's core is building this:

http://www.nhdbuzz.com/BuzzAdmin/art...ARDENS2008.jpg

you're wrong.

These are the townhomes that are going up (from flickr, not my photo).
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5284/5...851bcfa4_b.jpg

And these are the SFH and townhome neighborhoods that are going up.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Li...4a8397e0e51885

Here's another pic of the townhome development going up with the shared driveway but is adding density to the area. Wish the sidewalks were wider though.
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.7696...z_DEr5cj0g!2e0
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Old 05-05-2014, 01:57 PM
 
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I'm not making anything up for one. I didn't post pics because it would be against the rules. I told you I only focused on the inner loop which is everything inside loop 610.
I never asked you to post pics.

You refuse to tell me a neighborhood where this supposed urban development is occurring, because you know it isn't true.

Just give us one intersection, please.
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Old 05-05-2014, 02:08 PM
 
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Yes, the city of Houston's leaders (the mayor, Parker) have set the timetable close to the next census when they annex in the area surrounding Exxon-Mobil's new campus and some additional extra territorial jurisdiction (which has 1.6 million people).

This will happen by 2020, they plan on annexing a bunch, areas with large populations already.
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Old 05-05-2014, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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I never asked you to post pics.

You refuse to tell me a neighborhood where this supposed urban development is occurring, because you know it isn't true.

Just give us one intersection, please.


If you want one, try Kirby and Westheimer. And yes, it is true.

Or here.
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.7518...Na9moHuORg!2e0

Now I know the problems with the CVS. But you stated that Houston isn't building anything urban and that is false.

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And you are extremely unfamiliar with Houston if you think there are no townhomes or parking in Houston.
When did I say there are no townhomes or parking in Houston? Next time, don't put words in my mouth.
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Old 05-05-2014, 02:11 PM
 
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Yes, the city of Houston's leaders (the mayor, Parker) have set the timetable close to the next census when they annex in the area surrounding Exxon-Mobil's new campus and some additional extra territorial jurisdiction (which has 1.6 million people).

This will happen by 2020, they plan on annexing a bunch, areas with large populations already.
Are you saying Houston is poised to become the second largest city in the country?
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Old 05-05-2014, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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I thought Houston said after they do annex the Exxon area that they are done annexing. At least that's what I read on another site.
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Old 05-05-2014, 02:16 PM
 
Location: The City
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Yes, the city of Houston's leaders (the mayor, Parker) have set the timetable close to the next census when they annex in the area surrounding Exxon-Mobil's new campus and some additional extra territorial jurisdiction (which has 1.6 million people).

This will happen by 2020, they plan on annexing a bunch, areas with large populations already.
adding 1.6 existing

is LA in danger of being passed - would Houston become the second largest US city mostly on technicality?

interesting

would assume at 1.6 million it must be somewhere in the 200-250 sq mile range for the add (basically adding the land area of Chicago or a combined Philly/Boston/SF, crazy)

Probably makes fiscal sense though
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Old 05-05-2014, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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adding 1.6 existing

is LA in danger of being passed - would Houston become the second largest US city mostly on technicality?

interesting

would assume at 1.6 million it must be somewhere in the 200-250 sq mile range for the add
I don't think he meant all of it. Just some of the ETJ.
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Old 05-05-2014, 02:23 PM
 
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Are you saying Houston is poised to become the second largest city in the country?
No, only third.

The city will only annex areas near the Exxon-Mobil campus, so about 300,000-400,000 people, no where close to Los Angeles' size. After that annexation, the remainder of it's extra-territorial jurisdiction will be left to the suburbs to either incorporate or annex on their own right. Parker only wants the financial benefits of the tax base (both civic and corporate) of the Exxon-Mobil employees.

Yeah, kidphilly, it'll probably be 200 square miles give or take.
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Old 05-05-2014, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Edmonds, WA
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No, only third.

The city will only annex areas near the Exxon-Mobil campus, so about 300,000-400,000 people, no where close to Los Angeles' size. After that annexation, the remainder of it's extra-territorial jurisdiction will be left to the suburbs to either incorporate or annex on their own right. Parker only wants the financial benefits of the tax base (both civic and corporate) of the Exxon-Mobil employees.

Yeah, kidphilly, it'll probably be 200 square miles give or take.
Houston is already half the size of Rhode Island by land area. Does it really need another 200 square miles? ETA: If that happens then it will officially pass up Jacksonville as the most sprawling city in the lower 48.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...cities_by_area

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