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How much of that growth is births? Population growth, especially in a place like NYC doesn't equal new housing most of the time. It's more increased density from higher occupancy per unit etc.
LOL......do you care to share how much office space D.C. has compared to San Fran? How about how much office space the D.C. metro area has compared to the San Fran-Oakland MSA? Don't try to include the the CSA with San Jose, but if you want to, then you have to include the D.C. CSA which would include the Baltimore MSA. LOL....you already know you don't want to go there on either front.
I already know that I don't want to talk about oversized, underutilized suburban office parks in the heart of the nation's capital? It's a total waste and reflective of the government overall, which makes it all fitting I suppose.
We don't even need to use our CSA to beat the Bay Area. This is just our metro area:
Q2 2013 Office Space
The D.C. MSA has:
Downtown DC: 142,257,834 square feet of office space
DC MSA Suburbs: 284,135,019 square feet of office space
D.C. Metro Area: 426,392,853 square feet of office space
The Bay CSA has:
Downtown Oakland: 16,891,513 square feet of office space
Downtown San Fran: 88,097,076 square feet of office space
Downtown San Jose: 7,601,845 square feet of office space
San Fran/Oakland MSA Suburbs: 35,146,938 square feet of office space
San Jose MSA Suburbs: 55,865,346 square feet of office space
The Bay Area CSA Total Office Space: 203,602,718 square feet of office space
I am soooooooo happy you brought this up because it illustrates how wasteful DC actually is.
Square Feet of Office Space Per Employed Person, Q3 2013 Washington DC MSA 141.7 sq ft per employee SF & SF MSAs Combined 66.0 sq ft per employee
And that's using Aug 2013 Employment Data from BLS and your Sq ft data
So let's see, you need 141 sq ft to do what we can do in 66 sq ft. And youre bragging about transit and how much of an example you are as far as development. Doesn't look like youre an example at all actually. In fact, the word that comes to mind is 'wasteful'. lol
Clearly the depths to which you fail as far as density run to the very core of DCs development. WOW.
I am soooooooo happy you brought this up because it illustrates how wasteful DC actually is.
Square Feet of Office Space Per Employed Person, Q3 2013 Washington DC MSA 141.7 sq ft per employee SF & SF MSAs Combined 66.0 sq ft per employee
And that's using Aug 2013 Employment Data from BLS and your Sq ft data
So let's see, you need 141 sq ft to do what we can do in 66 sq ft. And youre bragging about transit and how much of an example you are as far as development. Doesn't look like youre an example at all actually. In fact, the word that comes to mind is 'wasteful'. lol
Clearly the depths to which you fail as far as density run to the very core of DCs development. WOW.
At the end of the day, you're still on the west coast.
Yes, much of DC feels suburban and country compared to SF while most of NYC feels thirdworldish compared to SF.
I think that's a pretty tidy summation.
Sf has some pretty run down neighborhoods too. Tinderlion, anyone? That's actually in downtown. There are no areas like that in Midtown Manhattan or Lower Manhattan that has a bad reputation like Tinderlion.
No, actually it's realizing that you both are now blowing smoke. DC has more residential development going on than San Fran and it's not close. Everyone in this thread has agreed so what else is there to say?
Yes, much of DC feels suburban and country compared to SF while most of NYC feels thirdworldish compared to SF.
I think that's a pretty tidy summation.
so the answer to the topic was NYC.
As for thirdworldish. Sure. It's what happens when a city is the world in miniature. It's a lot more fun that way.
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If you think DC looks 
, then what do you think the both of them look like in comparison to 
NYC? Siberia
? LOL
so the answer to the topic was NYC.
