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I'm half Syrian and half Palestinian- we're not considered Asian by anyone.
Did you go to Cal as well? If you did, I might know who you are, especially if you grew up in SF and were born in 1987.
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San Francisco seems to feel more Asian to me than Toronto. However, if we're looking at the metro areas, I can see how Toronto would feel more Asian. I think Asians are the dominant visible minority in the GTA. While the Bay Area is 1/4 Asian, it's slightly more latino, and I feel like Latino culture seems more dominant outside of the city of San Francisco itself. Even a city like San Jose, which is about 1/3 Asian and 1/3 Latino, has more of a Latin influence than an Asian influence. Once you head to the East Bay and North Bay, the Latin influence seems to far outweigh the Asian influence.
I don't know about that. San Jose honestly feels more of a Pan-Asian city nowadays than Latino, and the Asian population of the Bay Area definitely is growing much much faster than the Hispanic one.
I feel like in Toronto, the "native" culture to speak is the White Canadian one, which like White American identity, is extremely fluid but mostly European in base. This is typically contrasted to the immigrant cultures, which are becoming more and more non-European.
However, when it comes to California "native" culture, not only is there the "Anglo" American culture to come through, but also the Hispanic culture AND the Asian culture, all of which have been in California in relatively large numbers at around the same time (California really didn't become populated until the 1850s)
In Canada, there's definitely more of a progression of "settlers", as opposed to everyone coming at once.
It's a way different dynamic.
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Very interesting that the Bay area is still winning the poll! Numerically, the cities are both roughly 34% Asian, but at the metro area level the GTA is about 32% Asian, while the Bay Area is only around 24-25% Asian. I guess people who are voting that the Bay Area feels more Asian may be going by the fact that within the city limits, San Francisco is distinctly more East Asian than Toronto- though both have similar Asian percentages within the city limits, ~13% of the city of Toronto's Asian population, leaving fewer East Asians relative to SF; most North Americans think of an East Asian or Southeast Asian person when they hear the term "Asian", so perhaps that may explain the difference!
Another reason why some voters may be choosing the Bay Area might be that the Asian population in the Bay Area has been around for MUCH longer- so perhaps its cultural influences have found their way into mainstream local culture much moreso than in the GTA- where Asians mostly fall under the umbrella of recent immigrants- whose culture lies mostly separate from that of Canadian-born whites.
Personally I feel like the higher recent immigrant share among the Asian population in the GTA makes the Asian population feel even more strongly Asian, in contrast to the more "whitewashed" Asian population in the Bay Area.
By some. A few Middle Easterners I know (those not from North Africa) consider themselves "Asian" and put it on the questionnaires on SATs and such. In some countries, Middle Easterners are also considered "Asian".
By the census Middle East and North Africans are considered white. Lot of Jews and Muslims look white thou so it makes sense but their culture is totally different from Irish and German people, lot of white cultures are very diverse as well.
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Very interesting that the Bay area is still winning the poll! Numerically, the cities are both roughly 34% Asian, but at the metro area level the GTA is about 32% Asian, while the Bay Area is only around 24-25% Asian. I guess people who are voting that the Bay Area feels more Asian may be going by the fact that within the city limits, San Francisco is distinctly more East Asian than Toronto- though both have similar Asian percentages within the city limits, ~13% of the city of Toronto's Asian population, leaving fewer East Asians relative to SF; most North Americans think of an East Asian or Southeast Asian person when they hear the term "Asian", so perhaps that may explain the difference!
Another reason why some voters may be choosing the Bay Area might be that the Asian population in the Bay Area has been around for MUCH longer- so perhaps its cultural influences have found their way into mainstream local culture much moreso than in the GTA- where Asians mostly fall under the umbrella of recent immigrants- whose culture lies mostly separate from that of Canadian-born whites.
Personally I feel like the higher recent immigrant share among the Asian population in the GTA makes the Asian population feel even more strongly Asian, in contrast to the more "whitewashed" Asian population in the Bay Area.
Still when people think of a Chinatown in North America. They think of SF.... though other cities have one. As for Chinese investment.... I think it is still NYC and SF that gets most?
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