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Do people go tubing? Do they allow you to do it with a good supply of beer?
Yes, there are huge flotillas! Huge rafts to small tubes, tied together. Major water gun fights break out. It's a really good time. Very relaxing. Within Sacramento it is roughly a 2 to 3 hour ride from the Sunrise Bridge to no further than the Watt Ave Bridge.
People bring beer and other libations but on certain holidays (Memorial Day, July 4th, Labor Day) they prohibit and enforce no alcohol. Which is actually really quite WISE because the water is cold and swift flowing, and drunken fools don't mix well with cold water.
You are very wrong. Yes, in the middle of the summer I have friends and family that come from all over the Bay Area not only to visit me, , but because of the weather.
They want the warmer sunnier days. And a big hit with them is to raft down the American River in the heart of Sacramento, something you can't do in the Bay Area.
Fresh clean cold snow melt water in the middle of Sacramento along with bright sun and 90F temps, dry 10% humidity, in the late afternoon.
Yeah because there are no places that are closer like Wine Country or the Delta that reach the 90s?
"One of the nicest downtowns in the Bay Area." Ok well it's also the largest city in the Bay Area. Of the top 3, it has the worst downtown. I'd even put some suburban ones over it, especially when you compare the much smaller suburbs to such a massive city of over 1 million people. San Jose is the epitome of boring soulless suburbs, but nobody from the Bay would ever admit that it's worse than LA in that regard.
Clearly, you've never have been to San Jose. If you did, maybe in the 70's or early 80's when it was a disaster. You need to visit San Jose before making this statement. Do you have a concrete fact that makes Downtown San Jose the worst of the three? Oakland is, not San Jose, the worst.
I live in downtown, and it's a wonderful urban locale. It's as good as any downtowns in the country: with lots of people walking streets all the time downtown and just a ton of stuff to do. it's very clean, safe, walkable, vibrant and very cohesive.
Still, the question is what are some interesting things to do in Sacramento in the city? What do you show visitors?
Sacramento midtown/downtown is great place to walk or ride your bike. Just walking the streets going to non- chain local bars and restaurants, art galleries, breweries, coffee houses, desert places, bakeries, and urban wineries.
Water skiing, Jet skiing, boating, fishing on the Sacramento River or Folsom Lake
Rafting, canoeing, fishing on the American River
Bike the American River Parkway from Old Sacramento to Old Town Folsom(Sutter Street) (25 miles)
You can visit:
Golden One Center - Sacramento Kings, Live Concerts, Events & Shows - Better than any sports venue in the Bay Area
Raley Field - Sacramento River Cats, Most winningest AAA team, Very Intimate Lovely ballpark/stadium very reasonable ticket prices. - It's a smaller version of the SF Giants Ballpark but without the outrageous prices. This is the "farm" team for the SF Giants, and for the last 20 years for the Oakland A's.
Local theater - B Street, Capitol theater
Live Music - Ace of Spades, Harlows, Torch Club, Fox & Goose, Old Ironsides...several others
Wells Fargo Pavillion - Music Circus traditional broadway musicals
Sacramento Community Theater - Musical theater, events and shows
Sacramento Convention Center - Events
Mondavi Center - UC Davis - Shows, concerts, music, speakers
Shrem Art Museum - UC Davis, brand new, opens Nov 13
Crocker Art Museum and Mansion - Lovely collection - First class, modern art to the classics, great space, very much like a NYC/SF/LA art museum in some ways a better experience because it's less crowded/smaller easier to enjoy the art.
Governors Mansion
The Capitol Building
Stanley Mosk Library Courts Building
Stanford Mansion
Town Ford Museum (Automobile Collection)
Old Sacramento - Historic Buildings, Firehouse Restaurant, Delta King Restored Ship, now a Hotel on the River
Sutter's Fort - (28th and K Streets)
Capitol Park - 10th and L Streets
William Land Park - Zoo and Park
California State Fair - CalExpo
Bay Area people are so deluded on Sacramento summers that they even ignore where in the Bay Area they are very very close in weather and temperature.
Very very often Concord and Walnut Creek and the entire inner East Bay are near identical to Sacramento summers. Certainly Walnut Creek summers are more like Sacramento than San Francisco and Oakland. You would never know that talking to the average Bay Area resident.
I use Phoenix and Austin and Dozens and Dozens of other American cities to compare with Sacramento because it's relative and quite eye-opening if you pay attention to the facts about how comfortable and how cool Sacramento really is......because you would never get an accurate description of Sacramento weather from a coastal Californian.
One of the reasons I focus on Sacramento weather is because of the distortion of facts that comes out of a coastal Californians mouth about our weather.
Sacramento weather is near identical to SF weather 10 1/2 months out of the year and near identical to the inner East Bay in the Bay Area 12 months out of the year. You would never know this talking to someone from either SF, LA or San Diego.
If you talk to a coastal California you would think Sacramento winters are like some midwestern or northern city and that our summers are identical to any uncomfortably hot city in the US......which is just about 80% of all american cities.
I've already acknowledged several times that the Bay Area has similar weather:
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It has the same weather patterns....
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So does Sacramento, 56F to 58F. The lows for Oakland and San Jose range from 55-58 from May through August FYI.
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The high temps may be similar...
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despite similar highs
That's 4 times I acknowledged Sac having similar weather as parts of the Bay Area so quit acting like I haven't.
Like you said the devil is in the details, Sac can get significantly hotter earlier and stay hotter later. The heatwaves also last longer. This is all noticeable.
Again this is just comparing CA cities. Austin and Phoenix doesn't make Sac any less hot compared to Oakland, Long Beach, and San Jose.
One interesting development is that the center for the Bay Area is likely to shift southwards to San Jose in the next decade. The primary industry for the Bay Area is much more concentrated in San Jose and a primary issue had been that one of the main issues has been the terrible commute from the East Bay to San Jose. However, BART reaching downtown San Jose is a massive shift, along with electrified Caltrain and an expanded VTA light rail (and to some extent, the high speed rail line which seems to have been reconfigured into an extremely long range commuter rail for San Jose). These are just the transit expansions, but coupled with the denser housing construction in San Jose, and the sponsorship of civic art and culture institutions within the city and that the domestic and foreign migrant population into the area generally favor new construction, well, you got a stew going.
No it's not, San Jose is boring and dull and BART won't change that. Downtown San Jose isn't a that big or important job center either. Plus the area is already ridiculously expensive and overpriced so don't expect "artists" and "hipsters" to move there and make the place any less banal.
Yes, compared to Oakland's, Sacramento summers are hot. Which is good. It's not outrageously hot like the Inland Empire, Vegas or Phoenix which are miseably hot despite the dry heat talk. It's also not hot in the terrible muggy hot 'lanta and Florida sort of hot. It's simply a good heat signifying summer and a pleasure to be outside.
Clearly, you've never have been to San Jose. If you did, maybe in the 70's or early 80's when it was a disaster. You need to visit San Jose before making this statement. Do you have a concrete fact that makes Downtown San Jose the worst of the three? Oakland is, not San Jose, the worst.
Yeah last time I was there was summer 2014. Unimpressed for a city of over 1 million people and as an anchor to a metro of nearly 2 million people.
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I live in downtown, and it's a wonderful urban locale. It's as good as any downtowns in the country: with lots of people walking streets all the time downtown and just a ton of stuff to do. it's very clean, safe, walkable, vibrant and very cohesive.
Now I'm going to use your argument. Have you EVER left San Jose??? You really think SJ has a good a downtown as any in the country?? What are you even talking about?
SJ is the 10th most populous city in the country. NYC, Chicago, LA, Houston, Philadelphia, San Diego, and Dallas are all larger with better downtown. Smaller cities than SJ with better downtowns include Austin, SF, Seattle, DC, Boston, Portland, Baltimore, Sacramento, Atlanta, Oakland, Minneapolis, New Orleans, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati.
If you genuinely think downtown SJ has just as much going on as other downtowns all over the country, you need to travel more or get out of the fantasy you've built for yourself in your mind. Even people I know born and raised in San Jose admit their downtown sucks and the city is extremely boring.
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