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Nice argument - 9.1 milllion people live where people live...So what’s in the other 75% of the land area water? Is it mountains? Desert? Is it uninhabitable? Probably a good amount of farmland which is integral to society..doesn’t mean you can just get rid of it...The urban areas in Boston’s csa cover 3600 square miles (dominant urban areas of Boston, worcester and providence)...that’s 8.2 million in 3600 square miles if you get rid of forests and trees... Nyc is a different animal..it has nearly Chicago’s msa in its 300 sq miles city border..its msa is 20 million....Chicago is very far from nyc in all things urban...I admit Boston is much smaller than Chicago and Chicago’s metro maintains higher population densities connected for longer distances than Boston ..it’s harder for just a few from Chicago to admit chicago is so much smaller compared to ny
I know no one from Chicago, and I lived there, who thinks Chicago is the size of New York...no one. I do know, that everyone knows it's bigger than Boston, though.
I know no one from Chicago, and I lived there, who thinks Chicago is the size of New York...no one. I do know, that everyone knows it's bigger than Boston, though.
You just made two factual statements that everyone does agree with ..a few just clearly don’t realize how far it is from standpoint of economy and urban footprint compared to New York
You just made two factual statements that everyone does agree with ..a few just clearly don’t realize how far it is from standpoint of economy and urban footprint compared to New York
No need to put Chicago down, because you know a handful of people (I guess), who think it's on the level of NYC. I guess you believe that handful speaks for the millions in the Chicago area??? You sure are painting with a broad brush, but clearly, that's what you want to believe, so have at it!
I still think it's closer to Boston here. Chicago serves as the setting for more shows than probably every city that's not NYC or LA, but it's similar to the rest of the cities in America in that it lacks a daily studio show that draws millions of eyeballs on a nightly basis. NYC has NBC Nightly News, the Today Show, Trevor Noah, Seth Meyers, SNL, etc. LA has NBC Nightly News (sometimes), Ellen, Kimmel, Corden, etc. The only other city that has this constant media presence is DC with NBC Nightly News (sometimes) and the Sunday morning shows like Meet the Press. Chicago had Oprah, but that's been off the air for nearly a decade now.
So while it's true you're more likely to see Chicago than Boston in a TV show, neither has an entrenched media presence like NYC, LA and to a far lesser extent, DC. I can't ever recall being in an airport or some public place with TVs and hearing "This is Lester Holt from our studios in Chicago" or "This is Katie Couric reporting from our studios in Boston." IMO this lack of media stature makes Chicago a lot more similar to Boston in terms of media influence.
For some reason like the entire country gets WGN Chicago. That’s why the Cubs are so popular.
I could watch Chicago local news if I wanted to and I live nowhere near Chicago.
No need to put Chicago down, because you know a handful of people (I guess), who think it's on the level of NYC. I guess you believe that handful speaks for the millions in the Chicago area??? You sure are painting with a broad brush, but clearly, that's what you want to believe, so have at it!
This is a forum to discuss cities and debate...how am I putting Chicago down by stating facts..I’m debating with people (there are 29 at this time) who claim Chicago is closer in the criteria listed to the USA premier city (nyc) than it is to Boston which is somewhere behind Chicago in the next grouping of cities in these categories...I’ve objectively stated why the gap between nyc and Chicago is greater than the gap between Chicago and that next tier of cities (which is the question posed)...I’ve yet to hear a cohesive argument otherwise
This is a forum to discuss cities and debate...how am I putting Chicago down by stating facts..I’m debating with people (there are 29 at this time) who claim Chicago is closer in the criteria listed to the USA premier city (nyc) than it is to Boston which is somewhere behind Chicago in the next grouping of cities in these categories...I’ve objectively stated why the gap between nyc and Chicago is greater than the gap between Chicago and that next tier of cities (which is the question posed)...I’ve yet to hear a cohesive argument otherwise
Agreed...if you bought a car and someone you don’t know said it sucked would you care? I wouldn’t, you shouldn’t either.
This is a forum to discuss cities and debate...how am I putting Chicago down by stating facts..I’m debating with people (there are 29 at this time) who claim Chicago is closer in the criteria listed to the USA premier city (nyc) than it is to Boston which is somewhere behind Chicago in the next grouping of cities in these categories...I’ve objectively stated why the gap between nyc and Chicago is greater than the gap between Chicago and that next tier of cities (which is the question posed)...I’ve yet to hear a cohesive argument otherwise
Enean should be notorious for this response.
I once mentioned the merger of schools in Chicago's south and west sides, and how that has incited new violence in those neighborhoods.. And Enean said something along the lines of "now that you have exposed your true colors, I will no longer take anything you say seriously."
For some reason like the entire country gets WGN Chicago. That’s why the Cubs are so popular.
I could watch Chicago local news if I wanted to and I live nowhere near Chicago.
That's true. Though I would put WGN in the same category with maybe TBS and definitely below CNN (during its ATL days).
As far as "stature" goes, I don't think anything really commands as much respect as having one of the Big Three (ABC, CBS, NBC) bureaus. I'd probably add the BBC as well. Interestingly enough, Boston *does* have a BBC bureau while Chicago doesn't. NYC, LA and DC are the only other U.S. cities with BBC foreign news bureaus.
NBC's major bureaus are in NYC, LA, DC and London with minor bureaus in Atlanta, Boston, Chicago, Dallas, Denver, Houston, Miami, Philly, San Diego and San Francisco. CBS is headquartered in NYC with the rest of its bureaus more or less being equals (with perhaps DC being first among those equals). ABC has done away with physical news desks for the most part (outside of NYC) but it has correspondents based out of Los Angeles and DC.
A city like DC doesn't have much in the way of sitcoms, telenovelas and game shows going for it, but it has something that's arguably more important IMO: daily images of the city in the closing credits of the nightly news.
A city like DC doesn't have much in the way of sitcoms, telenovelas and game shows going for it, but it has something that's arguably more important IMO: daily images of the city in the closing credits of the nightly news.
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