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Im not CONVINCED one way or the other.All Im saying is you use data that says Total Foreign Born Population.It clearly says Houston.I use percentage of "total foreign population for select NATIONALITIES",It clearly says Atlanta is based on the individual countries of origin listed.The totals ARE right there.You can say Houston is more diverse and it would be true but again it is true for Atlanta too.If you cannot understand what I'm saying then thats not my fault.NO ONE HAS PROVED ME WRONG!
Look at these statistic for gays in both states GEORGIA
Total population 8,186,453 Rank: 10th
Percent of people in same-sex couples 0.47% Rank: 15th
Total same-sex couples 19,288 Rank: 7th
TEXAS
Total population 20,851,820 Rank: 2nd
Percent of people in same-sex couples 0.41% Rank: 20th
Total same-sex couples 42,912 Rank: 3rd
The rank is higher depending on which stat you use,however they are both true.Understand?
Back in the early 80s the racial strife was Hispanic vs. Armenian and Hispanic Vs. Black at the High Schools. North Hollywood HS had huge melees. Now it seems to be Hispanic Vs. Black.
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Yup! The Hispanic vs. Armenian was what my husband would refer to.
He said one day, he'd arrive at school and see one Armenian kid being chased by a pack of Hispanic kids. The next day, one Hispanic kid being chased by a pack of Armenian kids
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I hope this is NEVER the TYPE OF DIVERSITY IN ATLANTA
And Atlanta has the highest Korean,Nigeria,Jamaican,Colombian,Indian,Chinese populations than Houston.That Smaller argument is SOOO pointless.Miami is smaller.I guess Houston is actually more diverse than Miami too huh?I did not ignore RAW NUMBERS,but that just means there are MORE PEOPLE in HOUSTON.Not that there are more people of a select nationality or culture which in Atlanta that clearly shows.That has NOTHING to do with being SMALLER.As I said before several cities are smaller than Houston and Dallas.One of the is NEW YORK CITY!!Another is L.A.,D.C. what is the excuse for those cities?
Atlanta does not have higher Colombian, Indian, Nigerian, or Chinese populations than Houston. Just as much as you saying that Houstonians can't come to grips that it's behind Atlanta in education, you cannot come to grips that Atlanta is behind Houston in diversity. Give credit where credit is due. Nobody is saying Atlanta is not diverse. It just isn't as diverse as Houston. At least not yet.
Look at these statistic for gays in both states GEORGIA
Total population 8,186,453 Rank: 10th
Percent of people in same-sex couples 0.47% Rank: 15th
Total same-sex couples 19,288 Rank: 7th
TEXAS
Total population 20,851,820 Rank: 2nd
Percent of people in same-sex couples 0.41% Rank: 20th
Total same-sex couples 42,912 Rank: 3rd
The rank is higher depending on which stat you use,however they are both true.Understand?
We know that. Percentages are nice. But when you want the true exact whole number, you look at the raw numbers. The raw numbers almost always comes out on top over the percentages.
Actually I was NOT wrong about how many Nigerians in Atlanta.Atlanta DOES have more.Atlanta has a higher percentage than Houston.
Just because one has a higher percentages does not mean they actually have more. Let's look at it this way. This is city limits to city limits. Atlanta has a higher percentage of Blacks than Houston. Under your argument, Atlanta has more blacks than Houston in the city limits only because Atlanta has a higher percentage. But when one looks at the raw numbers of those percentages in these cities, guess which one comes out on top? That's why you can't just use percentages and automatically say they have more.
Atlanta would have a higher percentage in some areas because they have a much smaller foreign born population in it's metro than Houston does. That however does not mean that there is more of those nationalities in Atlanta compared to Houston.
Just because one has a higher percentages does not mean they actually have more. Let's look at it this way. This is city limits to city limits. Atlanta has a higher percentage of Blacks than Houston. Under your argument, Atlanta has more blacks than Houston in the city limits only because Atlanta has a higher percentage. But when one looks at the raw numbers of those percentages in these cities, guess which one comes out on top? That's why you can't just use percentages and automatically say they have more.
Atlanta would have a higher percentage in some areas because they have a much smaller foreign born population in it's metro than Houston does. That however does not mean that there is more of those nationalities in Atlanta compared to Houston.
No that was NOT my argument.This is why you can and they do use percentages.Look at it this way.San Francisco is pretty much the undisputed gay capital with the largest amount of gays.Most people will tell you that.However,it is NOT.NYC is.Because NYC has a larger overall population,it shows in the stats that NYC has more.In fact 4(FOUR)CITIES are BEFORE San Francisco.All have larger overall populations.
PopulationGLB Population
population rank
1New York City 6% 272,493 1 (6% of the pop.in NYC is gay vs. 15.4% San Fran)
2 Los Angeles 5.6% 154,270 2
3 Chicago 5.7% 114,449 3
4 San Francisco 15.4% 94,234 4 (greater concentration of gays vs the overall population)
5 Phoenix 6.4% 63,222 5
6 Houston 4.4% 61,976 6
7 San Diego 6.8% 61,945 7
8 Dallas 7.0% 58,473 8
9 Seattle 12.9% 57,993 9
10 Boston 12.3% 50,540 10
11 Philadelphia 4.2% 43,320 11
12 Atlanta 12.8% 39,085 12
13 San Jose 5.8% 37,260 13
According to this Houston also has a larger population of gays than Atlanta.Most people would tell you that is false too.Is it?NO.But Atlanta has more ALSO TRUE
City Percentage
population rank
Rank City Population GLB Population Rank
1San Francisco 15.4% 94,234 4
2 Seattle 12.9% 57,993 9
3 Atlanta 12.8% 39,805 12
4 Minneapolis 12.5% 34,295 16
5 Boston 12.3% 50,540 10
6 Sacramento 9.8% 32,108 20
7 Portland 8.8% 35,413 14
8 Denver 8.2% 33,698 17
9 Washington 8.1% 32,599 18
10 Orlando 7.7% 12,508 36
Rank City Percentage
of City Where are Houston,Dallas,Philadelphia,and Phoenix on this list?^^^^^^
Those numbers above are for the CITY not MSA;
Hear are the numbers for the largest MSA's
Rank City GLB GLB%
population
1 New York City - Northern New Jersey - Long Island, NY 568,903 2.6%
2 Los Angeles - Long Beach, CA - Santa Ana, CA 442,211 2.7%
3 Chicago–Naperville–Joliet, IL 288,478 3.1%
4 San Francisco - Oakland - Fremont, CA 256,313 3.6%
5 Boston - Cambridge, MA - Quincy, MA 201,344 3.4%
6 Washington DC 191,959 2.5%
7 Dallas - Fort Worth - Arlington, TX 183,718 3.5%
8 Miami - Miami Beach - Fort Lauderdale 183,346 4.7%
9 Atlanta - Marietta, GA - Sandy Springs, GA 180,168 4.3%
10 Philadelphia - Camden, NJ - Wilmington, DE 179,459 2.8%
NOTICE HOW SOME OF THE CITIES ON THIS LIST WERE NOT ON THE CITY LIST?
Where are Seattle,Minneapolis,San Diego,Phoenix,and Houston on this list?^^^^^^
I honestly could care less because it really is just "splitting hairs" due to how close it actually is.But you have some people on here that think its like a "land-slide" or something.All I'm saying is ,that depending on how you look at it,it could go either way.
No that was NOT my argument.Look at it this way.San Francisco is pretty much the undisputed gay capital with the largest amount of gays.Most people will tell you that.It is NOT.NYC is.Because NYC has a larger overall population,it shows in the stats that NYC has more.In fact 4(FOUR)CITIES are BEFORE San Francisco.All have larger overall populations.
PopulationGLB Population
population rank
1New York City 6% 272,493 1 (6% of the pop.in NYC is gay vs. 15.4% San Fran)
2 Los Angeles 5.6% 154,270 2
3 Chicago 5.7% 114,449 3
4 San Francisco 15.4% 94,234 4
5 Phoenix 6.4% 63,222 5
6 Houston 4.4% 61,976 6
7 San Diego 6.8% 61,945 7
8 Dallas 7.0% 58,473 8
9 Seattle 12.9% 57,993 9
10 Boston 12.3% 50,540 10
11 Philadelphia 4.2% 43,320 11
12 Atlanta 12.8% 39,085 12
13 San Jose 5.8% 37,260 13
According to this Houston also has a larger population of gays than Atlanta.Most people would tell you that is false too.Is it?NO.But Atlanta has more ALSO TRUE
City Percentage
population rank
Rank City Population GLB Population Rank
1San Francisco 15.4% 94,234 4
2 Seattle 12.9% 57,993 9
3 Atlanta 12.8% 39,805 12
4 Minneapolis 12.5% 34,295 16
5 Boston 12.3% 50,540 10
6 Sacramento 9.8% 32,108 20
7 Portland 8.8% 35,413 14
8 Denver 8.2% 33,698 17
9 Washington 8.1% 32,599 18
10 Orlando 7.7% 12,508 36
Rank City Percentage
of City
Those numbers above are for the CITY not MSA;
Hear are the numbers for the largest MSA's
Rank City GLB GLB%
population
1 New York City - Northern New Jersey - Long Island, NY 568,903 2.6%
2 Los Angeles - Long Beach, CA - Santa Ana, CA 442,211 2.7%
3 Chicago–Naperville–Joliet, IL 288,478 3.1%
4 San Francisco - Oakland - Fremont, CA 256,313 3.6%
5 Boston - Cambridge, MA - Quincy, MA 201,344 3.4%
6 Washington DC 191,959 2.5%
7 Dallas - Fort Worth - Arlington, TX 183,718 3.5%
8 Miami - Miami Beach - Fort Lauderdale 183,346 4.7%
9 Atlanta - Marietta, GA - Sandy Springs, GA 180,168 4.3%
10 Philadelphia - Camden, NJ - Wilmington, DE 179,459 2.8%
NOTICE HOW SOME OF THE CITIES ON THIS LIST WERE NOT ON THE CITY LIST?
Where is Seattle,Minneapolis,San Diego,Phoenix,and Houston on this list?
I honestly could care less because it really is just "splitting hairs" due to how close it actually is.But you have some people on here that think its like a "land-slide" or something.All I'm saying is ,that depending on how you look at it,it could go either way.
Urban Def.: Of, relating to, or located in a city.
2. Characteristic of the city or city life.
You tell me?So I guess it is open to interpretation.
Oh, so if your gay than Houston is a bad place to move to because it has a less openly gay population?
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What does this have to do with a city being urban anyways????
