[JayCT]

Originally Posted by EmiSky

Did you all know this?

HARTFORD, Conn. (WTNH) — “A 2018 federal Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention Act passed by lawmakers says juveniles can not be held in custody for more than six hours. State Lawmakers say that ties the hands of judges who oversee juvenile justice cases.”

This is astonishing! I was wondering why the 17 yr. who killed the jogger was still on the streets, even after 13 arrests. And I’m sure he committed a lot more crime but wasn’t caught every time. Let’s keep the pressure on law makers and have them repeal this law, amongst others.

“Right now, if a juvenile is arrested at midnight in a town, the judge is then asked ‘should this individual be detained?’ That judge does not have access to the prior arrest record,” explained House Speaker Matt Ritter.“

Below is the full article.

https://www.wtnh.com/news/politics/j...ublic-outrage/

This is the juvenile reform law that has caused the rise in juvenile crime we are experiencing. It’s ridiculous. Jay

[kidyankee764]

Originally Posted by EmiSky

Did you all know this?

HARTFORD, Conn. (WTNH) — “A 2018 federal Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention Act passed by lawmakers says juveniles can not be held in custody for more than six hours. State Lawmakers say that ties the hands of judges who oversee juvenile justice cases.”

This is astonishing! I was wondering why the 17 yr. who killed the jogger was still on the streets, even after 13 arrests. And I’m sure he committed a lot more crime but wasn’t caught every time. Let’s keep the pressure on law makers and have them repeal this law, amongst others.

“Right now, if a juvenile is arrested at midnight in a town, the judge is then asked ‘should this individual be detained?’ That judge does not have access to the prior arrest record,” explained House Speaker Matt Ritter.“

Below is the full article.

https://www.wtnh.com/news/politics/j...ublic-outrage/

The six hour maximum, to be fair, is the case in other states as well. It means law enforcement cannot hold a juvenile in their department for more than six hours. Where Connecticut is different is that there are no longer juvenile detention centers so they must be completely released within that time frame to a caregiver. In other states, they are dropped off at a detention center and either await a juvenile judge or are released with stipulations. Connecticut completely got rid of that, and it certainly shows.

[BobNJ1960]

Originally Posted by kidyankee764

The six hour maximum, to be fair, is the case in other states as well. It means law enforcement cannot hold a juvenile in their department for more than six hours. Where Connecticut is different is that there are no longer juvenile detention centers so they must be completely released within that time frame to a caregiver. In other states, they are dropped off at a detention center and either await a juvenile judge or are released with stipulations. Connecticut completely got rid of that, and it certainly shows.

We need juvenile detention centers. This is not Eddie Haskell egging a house. We have violent kids who need to be kept away from civilized citizens.

[kidyankee764]

Originally Posted by BobNJ1960

We need juvenile detention centers. This is not Eddie Haskell egging a house. We have violent kids who need to be kept away from civilized citizens.

Agree. Before Malloy completely changed how juvenile law is handed, there was a good system of checks and balances in the state’s juvenile justice system. Depending on the severity of the crime, if a misdemeanor, local law enforcement had the choice of calling their parents or dropping them at the detention center. Most of the time, a parent or caregiver was called. If a felony, they go straight to the detention center to see a judge, who would make usually respectable decisions on their next step.

[MrGompers]

Originally Posted by kidyankee764

The six hour maximum, to be fair, is the case in other states as well. It means law enforcement cannot hold a juvenile in their department for more than six hours. Where Connecticut is different is that there are no longer juvenile detention centers so they must be completely released within that time frame to a caregiver. In other states, they are dropped off at a detention center and either await a juvenile judge or are released with stipulations. Connecticut completely got rid of that, and it certainly shows.

This is incorrect. CT has 2 juvie detention centers one in Hartford and one in Bridgeport. Teen perps that commit serious crimes like murder, rape, kidnapping are held in these centers. No murderer is being released to their parents.

[kidyankee764]

Originally Posted by MrGompers

This is incorrect. CT has 2 juvie detention centers one in Hartford and one in Bridgeport. Teen perps that commit serious crimes like murder, rape, kidnapping are held in these centers. No murderer is being released to their parents.

You’re completely wrong. In order for a juvenile to be accepted into such detention center, a judge must sign off approving their acceptance into the center. That is often impossible in the middle of the night - when most crimes are committed - and there is currently no avenue for expediting the process of their acceptance. Guess what happens if you cannot get a judge to sign off within six hours? They go back into your neighborhood, regardless of the crime.

[EmiSky]

This is a pretty pathetic statement by the Governor.

“At a news conference Thursday, Governor Ned Lamont was asked about what he believes on the issue: “That first or second offense should not be incarceration but there should be consequences.”

The governor also says leaders are also seeking better supervision at group homes.

The goal: intervention to prevent further arrests.”

Just because it’s some’s first offense, there shouldn’t be a blanket policy. If it’s a serious offense, the criminal should most definitely be locked-up. This statement by the Governor makes me think no serious reforms will come out of these meetings.

https://www.wtnh.com/news/politics/j...-offenders-go/

[kidyankee764]

Originally Posted by EmiSky

This is a pretty pathetic statement by the Governor.

“At a news conference Thursday, Governor Ned Lamont was asked about what he believes on the issue: “That first or second offense should not be incarceration but there should be consequences.”

The governor also says leaders are also seeking better supervision at group homes.

The goal: intervention to prevent further arrests.”

Just because it’s some’s first offense, there shouldn’t be a blanket policy. If it’s a serious offense, the criminal should most definitely be locked-up. This statement by the Governor makes me think no serious reforms will come out of these meetings.

https://www.wtnh.com/news/politics/j...-offenders-go/

Thank you for posting this link, which says:

“Police officers can give a verbal warning, conference with parents, refer the child to a juvenile review board for community service. Law enforcement can also choose to arrest and release a teen pending a court appearance. They can also arrest and hold a juvenile for up to six hours – while police seek an “order to detain” in a detention center. A judge has to sign off.“

This confirms exactly what I noted above, in response to MrGompers, noting only a judge can hold teens in these facilities. Law enforcement cannot just drop them off, thanks to Malloy.

I also agree with you regarding Lamont’s statement. It was an attempt at a “crowd pleaser” and I don’t think anything will change.

[BobNJ1960]

Originally Posted by kidyankee764

Thank you for posting this link, which says:

“Police officers can give a verbal warning, conference with parents, refer the child to a juvenile review board for community service. Law enforcement can also choose to arrest and release a teen pending a court appearance. They can also arrest and hold a juvenile for up to six hours – while police seek an “order to detain” in a detention center. A judge has to sign off.“

This confirms exactly what I noted above, in response to MrGompers, noting only a judge can hold teens in these facilities. Law enforcement cannot just drop them off, thanks to Malloy.

I also agree with you regarding Lamont’s statement. It was an attempt at a “crowd pleaser” and I don’t think anything will change.

Lamont thinks our violent teens should be handled like Opie Taylor hitting the bird with a slingshot. Just have the violent teen's mom and dad talk to him. The Connecticut Democratic party way.

He will go down as the state's worst governor ever, by far.

[MrGompers]

Originally Posted by kidyankee764

You’re completely wrong. In order for a juvenile to be accepted into such detention center, a judge must sign off approving their acceptance into the center. That is often impossible in the middle of the night - when most crimes are committed - and there is currently no avenue for expediting the process of their acceptance. Guess what happens if you cannot get a judge to sign off within six hours? They go back into your neighborhood, regardless of the crime.

No I'm completely right. You think the police can not get a hold of a judge during non business hours ?


A teen perp that is accused of a capital crime is not going home.