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Old 06-24-2015, 11:55 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Reportedly, it's common for prisoners to " go limp" when arrested.

The tapes I saw showed him using his legs to climb into the van.

Common for " eye- witness" reports to be contradicted by facts.
WTF? "go limp" Where did you ever get that? The guy was shackled, hands and feet he couldn't break the impact try it yourself sometime have someone tie you up and toss you off the roof, and then if you are still alive CD posters can scold you about 'going limp'
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Old 06-25-2015, 04:34 AM
 
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Then you need to go burn down the neighborhood that Freddie lived in to protest those evil police especially since you know a lot more than the people involved and who investigated it knew.
The lack of accountability for the individual police that step over the line is what causes violent protests. There haven't been any in Baltimore since the police involved were charged.
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Old 06-25-2015, 06:30 AM
 
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I do not see in the autopsy any information about the way his head and neck were dropped over to the side and why his legs were not working right, before the police van ride. I think they hurt him in numerous evil ways even prior to the van ride. He was treated with terrible violence.
Never let the truth get in the way of a good opportunity to spread hate.

Were you there? No. PURE speculation on your part. Speculation brought about by your apparent hatred of cops and the truth.
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Old 06-25-2015, 06:42 AM
 
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The lack of accountability for the individual police that step over the line is what causes violent protests. There haven't been any in Baltimore since the police involved were charged.
The cops were charged to stop the violence from spreading. If they're not convicted of the more serious charges, the riots will be back.
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Old 06-25-2015, 09:45 AM
 
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The lack of accountability for the individual police that step over the line is what causes violent protests. There haven't been any in Baltimore since the police involved were charged.
A record 43 murders in Baltimore for the month of May and arrests way down...I say the law of the jungle is now the rule of law in Baltghanistan...so I think the protests worked brilliantly...why stop now? We already have a poster here that knows the evil policeman did something wrong even though the investigation didn't find anything.
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Old 06-25-2015, 10:52 AM
 
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The cops were charged to stop the violence from spreading. If they're not convicted of the more serious charges, the riots will be back.
no, actually the cops were charged because they broke the law.
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Old 06-25-2015, 10:53 AM
 
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[quote=Tall Traveler;40160345]A record 43 murders in Baltimore for the month of May and arrests way down...I say the law of the jungle is now the rule of law in Baltghanistan...so I think the protests worked brilliantly...why stop now? We already have a poster here that knows the evil policeman did something wrong even though the investigation didn't find anything.[/QUOTE]

are we talking about the same case? What in the world are you talking about
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Old 06-25-2015, 11:43 AM
 
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no, actually the cops were charged because they broke the law.
We'll find out what a jury says about that. Mosby hasn't gone the open and transparent route so many people clamored for in other cases. She had her riot control press conference, laid out her story, and that's about it.
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Old 06-25-2015, 12:31 PM
 
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no, actually the cops were charged because they broke the law.
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We'll find out what a jury says about that. Mosby hasn't gone the open and transparent route so many people clamored for in other cases. She had her riot control press conference, laid out her story, and that's about it.
Let's try this again- they were arrested because there was reasonable cause to believe they had broken the law. Why do you persist in being an apologist for these cops, is it THAT important to you to prove that Freddie Gray somehow, mysteriously killed himself? Or are you waiting to find a way to blame Obama for it?
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Old 06-25-2015, 01:19 PM
 
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I believe all of the officers who were involved should be held responsible. Had Mr Grey been strapped in correctly the drivers stops would not have caused the injuries that occurred. That is what the autopsy shows. That would be like your wife not strapping your child in and then blaming you for her death or injury because you made a hard stop.
So, if my wife, my brother, my uncle and I were all at the car loading everything up, and I'm the driver and get pulled over for not having my child strapped in, who gets the ticket? I do because the driver has the ultimate responsibility.

Additionally, the driver made another stop prior to the injury and he did not secure Mr. Gray at that point.

This is 100% the responsibility of the driver. The only reason the other officers are included is so they can involve white people and keep the narrative going.

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The bold part confuses me. I cannot understand how some can blame Mr Grey for his own death because he was running from the police, while others claim opiates may have hindered his walking.
The ONLY reason I mentioned the opiates is because some people are saying Mr. Gray received the injury during the arrest and that was the reason he was dragging his feet and not walking properly. Since the autopsy points to the deadly injury occurring between the third and fourth stop, I was just pointing out the possiblity of opiates causes the walking issue during the arrest. If Mr. Gray swallowed drugs during the initial arrest, they might have been taking effect when he was being loaded in the van.
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