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Maybe that is your perception but I believe the other officers were charged since they all checked FG at some point during their ride and did nothing to help this young man.
The officers on the bikes did NOT ride with FG. They returned to their bikes once he was loaded.
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FG said he couldn't breathe, horrible death for sure.
From the reports I read, he said he couldn't breath at the fourth stop, which was at least two stops after the bike cops last saw him.
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As far as the opiates in his system, it would not make his legs go limp.
I read reports where it was said he was bearing wait on this legs when he was being loaded in the van.
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I also believe the initial take down when one officer leans his knee in the back of FG head, leaning on his neck could have caused the initial injury and the 45 minute ride exasperated the injury to his neck, along with the 'rough' ride severing his spinal cord.
From what I read from the analysis of the autopsy, this wouldn't have been the case.
Do you feel if the bicycle officers are found not guilty once all of the evidence is weighed at the trial, they are not responsible for his death?
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Reportedly, it's common for prisoners to " go limp" when arrested.
The tapes I saw showed him using his legs to climb into the van.
Common for " eye- witness" reports to be contradicted by facts.
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WTF? "go limp" Where did you ever get that? The guy was shackled, hands and feet he couldn't break the impact try it yourself sometime have someone tie you up and toss you off the roof, and then if you are still alive CD posters can scold you about 'going limp'
It's very clear that the person you quoted and responded to, middle-aged mom, was talking about FG going limp at the time of his arrest and during the time the cops were hauling him over to the van to load him for the first time, which is exactly what the video had shown, and she didn't say a single word about what happened during the van ride. Obviously from your response to her post you believe that he was shackled during the time of his arrest and while he was being hauled over to the van to be loaded for the first time. Like your comment in your response to her post--where did you ever get that? WTF indeed!
It's very clear that the person you quoted and responded to, middle-aged mom, was talking about FG going limp at the time of his arrest and during the time the cops were hauling him over to the van to load him for the first time, which is exactly what the video had shown, and she didn't say a single word about what happened during the van ride. Obviously from your response to her post you believe that he was shackled during the time of his arrest and while he was being hauled over to the van to be loaded for the first time. Like your comment in your response to her post--where did you ever get that? WTF indeed!
Are you actually claiming he wasn't shackled? And your 'assumption' about what another poster meant is simply that, an assumption. What exactly is your point?
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Are you actually claiming he wasn't shackled? And your 'assumption' about what another poster meant is simply that, an assumption. What exactly is your point?
Please show us the video where at the time of his arrest and when the cops hauled him over to the van that his legs were shackled. The only video the rest of us have seen shows his legs unshackled at that time.
Please show us the video where at the time of his arrest and when the cops hauled him over to the van that his legs were shackled. The only video the rest of us have seen shows his legs unshackled at that time.
How hard is it for you to understand in the two sentences that she posted and you commented on, that she was talking about the time period at the time of his arrest and when he was first loaded into the van?
Then you come back with videos made during a time period that she was not talking about..geez
Show in the following video where his legs were shackled..
How hard is it for you to understand in the two sentences that she posted and you commented on, that she was talking about the time period at the time of his arrest and when he was first loaded into the van?
Then you come back with videos made during a time period that she was not talking about..geez
Show in the following video where his legs were shackled..
I posted a video, look at it if you choose, but please understand this I am not obligated to show you anything, ever. And as far as what the other poster stated- given the context I inferred that it was a claim that his supposedly 'going limp' somehow contributed to his demise, it that's not what she meant - then so be it, but I'm sure she is capable of clearing that up, right? It sounds like you want to fight just to be fighting and I'm not interested in re-litigating this entire case, if I was I would just go back and re-read the 400 or so comments already made in various threads.
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I posted a video, look at it if you choose, but please understand this I am not obligated to show you anything, ever. And as far as what the other poster stated- given the context I inferred that it was a claim that his supposedly 'going limp' somehow contributed to his demise, it that's not what she meant - then so be it, but I'm sure she is capable of clearing that up, right?
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It sounds like you want to fight just to be fighting and I'm not interested in re-litigating this entire case, if I was I would just go back and re-read the 400 or so comments already made in various threads.
Fight just to be fighting? Nope. When you take something someone posted, which was clear and concise in its meaning, and completely change the gist of that post, for the purpose to rag on that poster, then I'll say something about it.
"re-litigating"? what? this forum is a court room?
I posted a video, look at it if you choose, but please understand this I am not obligated to show you anything, ever. And as far as what the other poster stated- given the context I inferred that it was a claim that his supposedly 'going limp' somehow contributed to his demise, it that's not what she meant - then so be it, but I'm sure she is capable of clearing that up, right?
It sounds like you want to fight just to be fighting and I'm not interested in re-litigating this entire case, if I was I would just go back and re-read the 400 or so comments already made in various threads.
FYI, the case has not yet been litigated, despite your confidence that the cops committed crimes, including murder,
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