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Old 08-10-2015, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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He'd been on probation for a previous incident. The article says he was never convicted of anything in the past, but he wouldn't be on probation if he hadn't been convicted, correct?
Apparently he was on deferred adjudication. This is probation for an offense that a person pleads "no contest" to. If they complete the probation successfully, that means that though the arrest and probation will still remain on their record, no conviction will show up on their record.
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Old 08-10-2015, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I watched the video and it looks to me like he was on bad drugs.
But that's just my opinion. Toxicology reports haven't been released.
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Old 08-10-2015, 07:48 AM
 
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Why would he shoot a dead kid?
Beat me to it by a couple of days!
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Old 08-10-2015, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Minnesota
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Vandalism is the intentional destruction of property. Theft is the taking of property. penalties are about the same and both are usually based on the value of the loss/damage. If you want to change the law so that vandalism and theft are the same thing, take it up with your state attorney general.
I should have made it clear I wasn't talking legally, but the net financial effect to the owner of the property is the same either way.

Someone steals your TV, you're out the value of the TV. Someone vandalizes your TV by smashing the screen, you're out the value of the TV.
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Old 08-10-2015, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Location: Location
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One time a cop had his hand on his gun and told me to keep my hands on the steering wheel. I said " yes sir" and kept my hands on the wheel.

You'll never believe what happened next. He wrote me a ticket. He didn't arrest me. He didn't shoot me. I know it's hard to believe. Sometimes I'm not sure if I just dreamed the whole thing. It was like a miracle or something.
Same here. Three A.M., on my way home from an after-party; everyone drinking liberally - except me. On the way home through several small towns. Streets deserted, I'm doing well over the speed limit. Suddenly, lights and sirens. Can't be for me. (Wanna bet?) I pull over to get out of his way and surprise! he pulled in behind me. I opened my window just a crack and he approached with hand on gun. Asked me if I knew how fast I was going and I said, "No, sir." He asked for my documents which I handed to him through the cracked window. He looked them over, looked at me, told me to slow down for my own safety. Handed me my papers and said, "You can go". I said, "Thank you, officer."

No ticket. Maybe because I was honest and polite? Maybe because he didn't smell alcohol? Maybe because a 65 y.o. woman didn't pose much of a threat? Whichever it was, it doesn't hurt to be polite.

Same goes for every traffic stop - be courteous. Don't swear.

For apprehensions, give it up. Don't run. Don't resist. Don't swear. Odds are, if you don't get caught this time, you will the next. All in all, I'd rather get arrested than dead.
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Old 08-10-2015, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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He'd been on probation for a previous incident. The article says he was never convicted of anything in the past, but he wouldn't be on probation if he hadn't been convicted, correct?
Hmmmm.
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Old 08-10-2015, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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He'd been on probation for a previous incident. The article says he was never convicted of anything in the past, but he wouldn't be on probation if he hadn't been convicted, correct?
The Star-Telegram reported that court records it reviewed showed Taylor was sentenced to six months of deferred adjudication last December on a drug charge stemming from a September 2013 traffic stop in which police reported Taylor was found with 11 hydrocodone tablets not prescribed to him. The case was dismissed July 14 after Taylor satisfied the requirement of his probation. He graduated from Summit High School in Mansfield, Texas, in 2014.
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Old 08-10-2015, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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Shrug. I don't care whether you believe me or not.

Are you a racist?
Kathryn, I have seen many threads over time here where you discuss your biracial children. And the way you characterize their experiences with other "black" people. You often mention, while your children are perceived as "black" they do not act like "regular black people," highlight the "differences" between your kids and other black folks.

Since for me, the definition of racism implies power, it is technically impossible for black people in the US to be "racist." But we can absolutely be prejudiced, bigoted or biased.

I am not racist, but I definitely have biases. I am working on being conscious of them. I know I can be classist, as my lens of experience is framed by growing up middle class. I am also slightly xenophobic. We are talking about racial biases here, but I know I also struggle with "gender non-conformity." I am also very very aware of colorism, as I am at the darker end of the spectrum.

I also tend to stereotype people, and put them in a box. My boxes include characteristics beyond race, ethnicity, class and education and roll in hometown, clothing style and a host of other things.

I am a product of our society, and we are trained to be biased. For me, the best course of action is to be aware when I am thinking in a biased way and try to counteract that. It is not wrong to have bias, it is human nature, being aware of it is half the battle.
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Old 08-10-2015, 10:07 AM
 
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Thank you. The article I read just called it "probation." In hindsight, might have been a bad move. Might a more serious punishment have gotten through to him? Instead, he had very little consequences for his actions.
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Old 08-10-2015, 10:14 AM
 
Location: "Arlen" Texas
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An unarmed college student who had just been on probation for drugs, who rammed his vehicle through a dealership gate, who jumped up and down on a car to break the windshield so he could get in it, who drove his vehicle through the plate glass window of the showroom, who refused police instructions to get on the floor when they arrived, then ran and who was probably as high as a kite and dangerous. Likely turned on them. But of course he's a good Christian, an innocent schoolboy, an unarmed victim

of his own criminal behavior.

I would love it if all the apologists for criminals actually had to deal with them for a while. Lots of lessons would be learned.
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