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Old 08-09-2015, 06:00 PM
 
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Originally Posted by KaaBoom View Post
Vandalism ≠ violent crime. People who think that someone should be executed for vandalizing property are a thousand times more messed up, then the person committing the vandalism.



Personally i think vandalism is as bad as stealing. It shows wanton disregard for others property..
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Old 08-09-2015, 06:04 PM
 
Location: West of Louisiana, East of New Mexico
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There are plenty of instances where officers shoot people (of all races) when those people have done nothing wrong. This is NOT one of those times. Honestly, the media tends to hype up these incidents because there's a certain "grayness."

A black kid doing nothing wrong that gets shot only creates anger with blacks and sympathetic people in other communities. However, a black kid that MAY have committed some crime getting shot can easily turn into a huge national debate. Blacks and most on the left will question why the officer used excessive force. After all, if a white kid can shoot up a movie theater without being killed by first responding officers, why does Pookie have to get shot for POSSIBLY committing burglary. Some on the right, some whites and many non-black minorities will wonder why Pookie is committing crime in the first place. If he obeyed the law, he wouldn't get shot.

Truthfully, both viewpoints have merit. Pookie shouldn't be playing the part of Local Street Thug, but the cops tend to bring personal biases into the job. Kill the black kid and don't worry about the consequences. White kids living on the edge know that police will do their best to avoid killing them.
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Old 08-09-2015, 06:07 PM
 
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There are plenty of instances where officers shoot people (of all races) when those people have done nothing wrong. This is NOT one of those times. Honestly, the media tends to hype up these incidents because there's a certain "grayness."

A black kid doing nothing wrong that gets shot only creates anger with blacks and sympathetic people in other communities. However, a black kid that MAY have committed some crime getting shot can easily turn into a huge national debate. Blacks and most on the left will question why the officer used excessive force. After all, if a white kid can shoot up a movie theater without being killed by first responding officers, why does Pookie have to get shot for POSSIBLY committing burglary. Some on the right, some whites and many non-black minorities will wonder why Pookie is committing crime in the first place. If he obeyed the law, he wouldn't get shot.

Truthfully, both viewpoints have merit. Pookie shouldn't be playing the part of Local Street Thug, but the cops tend to bring personal biases into the job. Kill the black kid and don't worry about the consequences. White kids living on the edge know that police will do their best to avoid killing them.
Bad example. If that movie theater kid resisted AT all he'd be dead. He just gave up.

ONCE AGAIN..dont resist arrest...hands up..you wont die. Lot of you folks simply can't grasp this concept can you.

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Old 08-09-2015, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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Yup. Let's face it, football players of any race are the stars of colleges and feel entitled to behave in ways that other students wouldn't and couldn't get away with. I'm guessing this is more just feeling like Big Man on Campus who can do anything he wants and more like some drug...

Ya, I loved the football angle too. The news reports keep pointing out the fact that he was a football player.

What on earth does that have to do with anything ? Are we supposed to be surprised that a football player would do something wrong ? Ummm, I'll leave that thought up to each of you to solve on your own.

Locally here, we had a college football player who actually robbed a bank. It was actually kind of comical since he left his "get away car" running outside the bank, and locked the doors. According to eye witnesses, he come back out of the bank with a pillowcase of money and couldn't get into his running car because he'd locked the doors....lol. So he runs a few buildings away to a garage, get's in somehow (I don't recall the exact details), steals a hammer, runs back to his car, breaks a window, jumps in and drives off leaving numerous witnesses watching him drive away. He was caught a very short time later by the cops.

He may have been a great football player, but he's about as stupid as humans come. Playing football is not a litmus test for intelligence, personal self control, or current/future success in life. It's a game that some like to play...that's it.
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Old 08-09-2015, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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Personally i think vandalism is as bad as stealing. It shows wanton disregard for others property..

If you look at it logically, vandalising is in fact stealing. You're partially or fully destroying something of worth that you don't own and haven't paid for, thereby making it worth far less or nothing to the rightful owner after you're done "vandalising" it.

How it that not stealing ? You're stealing value. Just something to think about.
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Old 08-09-2015, 06:44 PM
 
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There are plenty of instances where officers shoot people (of all races) when those people have done nothing wrong. This is NOT one of those times. Honestly, the media tends to hype up these incidents because there's a certain "grayness."

A black kid doing nothing wrong that gets shot only creates anger with blacks and sympathetic people in other communities. However, a black kid that MAY have committed some crime getting shot can easily turn into a huge national debate. Blacks and most on the left will question why the officer used excessive force. After all, if a white kid can shoot up a movie theater without being killed by first responding officers, why does Pookie have to get shot for POSSIBLY committing burglary. Some on the right, some whites and many non-black minorities will wonder why Pookie is committing crime in the first place. If he obeyed the law, he wouldn't get shot.

Truthfully, both viewpoints have merit. Pookie shouldn't be playing the part of Local Street Thug, but the cops tend to bring personal biases into the job. Kill the black kid and don't worry about the consequences. White kids living on the edge know that police will do their best to avoid killing them.
How do you know white kids think the police will do their best to avoid killing them. I think you just made that up. Then, how do you know cops think to just kill the black kids? Other than a complete fabrication, do you have any proof and since you said "cops" and didn't qualify the use, you referred to cops in general. Not only is that incorrect, it is dishonest to say.
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Old 08-09-2015, 07:19 PM
 
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Why don't we put these people back in their place? This is getting ridiculous. If you don't have anything to contribute to society you should be taken out any way possible. This is why hard labor and chain gangs should be the standard.
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Old 08-09-2015, 07:43 PM
 
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I don't subscribe to the notion that stuff is more important than another persons life.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OZIOE6aMBk

Skip to 2:20 if you don't want to watch the whole thing, because I'm not interested in starting a gun control argument.

I don't subscribe to the notion that someone has the right to go into someone's home, terrorize them as they steal and maim them.
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Old 08-09-2015, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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First off blacks commit more crime than whites..so the odds go up right there. And yea, I think they resist more too..so there ya go.
"I think they resist more too" any proof of that, or do we just take your word for it?
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Old 08-09-2015, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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If you look at it logically, vandalising is in fact stealing. You're partially or fully destroying something of worth that you don't own and haven't paid for, thereby making it worth far less or nothing to the rightful owner after you're done "vandalising" it.

How it that not stealing ? You're stealing value. Just something to think about.
Vandalism is the intentional destruction of property. Theft is the taking of property. penalties are about the same and both are usually based on the value of the loss/damage. If you want to change the law so that vandalism and theft are the same thing, take it up with your state attorney general.
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