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You're clearly very knowledgeable about Islam, but I have to point two things out--one minor, one more relevant. First: The action of doing anything is a noun, not a verb. Islam is submission to God; therefore, it's a noun. (Plenty of nouns describe actions--management, acceptance, issuance, observation, etc.)
Bigger point: If Islam entails only the sincere belief in the things you stated, then it's very similar to mainline and evangelical Protestant Christianity. The latter believes in "salvation through faith alone"--that if you believe Christ is the son of God and his death the sacrifice for man's sins, which you accept in repentance for your own, then you are by definition a Christian.
According to those denominations, there is no other requirement to be a Christian, even though church attendance is encouraged and it's presumed that belief in the aforementioned will result in good works.
In many ways that is similar to Islam. except we have no clear distinction of sects or divisions.
We even consider the Christians, Jews and Sabeeans of the past as having been Muslim as they practiced Islam.
Some of us even contend that the Jews, Christians, Sabeans, Hindus and some additional monotheistic religions are performing Islam to the best of their ability and knowledge. If for no fault of their own they have no knowledge of Muhammad(saws) or the Qur'an it is possible they are Muslims without knowing that is the name of what they are doing.
A Muslim is simply a person who perfoms Islam with sincerity to the best of his/her ability and knowledge. Perfection is not required, just the best in accordance with an individuals ability and knowledge.It is not up to us to judge if they are or are not Muslim. That depends on what is in their hearts, thoughts, sincerity and intentions which we have no way of knowing.
There are no membership requirements to be a Muslim, that is strictly between the individual and God(swt). We do not know who is a Muslim, we only know who says he is a Muslim.
just guessing: most of the Gulf states have a lot of money, but no life sustaining resources. everything including food and water has to be imported. It is far easier for the Golf nations to give monetary aid. I do not know if any do.
Maybe not so much money if oil is at $40-$50 per barrel and gasoline retails in the New York area for $2.13-$2.59 per gallon.
In many ways that is similar to Islam. except we have no clear distinction of sects or divisions.
We even consider the Christians, Jews and Sabeeans of the past as having been Muslim as they practiced Islam.
Some of us even contend that the Jews, Christians, Sabeans, Hindus and some additional monotheistic religions are performing Islam to the best of their ability and knowledge. If for no fault of their own they have no knowledge of Muhammad(saws) or the Qur'an it is possible they are Muslims without knowing that is the name of what they are doing.
A Muslim is simply a person who perfoms Islam with sincerity to the best of his/her ability and knowledge. Perfection is not required, just the best in accordance with an individuals ability and knowledge.It is not up to us to judge if they are or are not Muslim. That depends on what is in their hearts, thoughts, sincerity and intentions which we have no way of knowing.
There are no membership requirements to be a Muslim, that is strictly between the individual and God(swt). We do not know who is a Muslim, we only know who says he is a Muslim.
If you want to view Islam as being a religion in the English concept of Christian than you will have to identify every one of us as a separate religion. Islam is a verb, it means the action of submitting to God(swt) to the best of our abilities and knowledge. As we all have different levels of ability and knowledge, no 2 people perform Islam exactly the same.
There are no required central teachings in Islam. If a person desires to be a Muslim and their only knowledge of Islam is their belief that there is only one God, who has no equals, partners nor progeny and only He is to be worshiped. Their intent and sincerity makes them a Muslim and they are equal in Islam to the most knowledgable Islamic scholar.
If a person-believes the following is true:
They believe 2/3 of the Qur'anic message.
If a person understands that Surah and this Surah:
They understand the full message of the Qur'an. The remainder of the Qur'an simply explains the Hows and whys.
We do not 'Join" Islam. We have no membership as churches do. It is possible to be a Muslim and never even see a mosque or another Muslim. That actually happens fairly often. Especially among people in non-Islamic nations, who find Islam.
There is no excommunication in Islam, because there is no joining of an institution, organization, church etc. Being Muslim is a personal act and all who do the act of Islam of their own free will and with sincerity are Muslim. No ritual, dues, fees, tithes, oaths, pledges, membership requirements, or formalities involved.
It's refreshing to see a Muslim acknowledge that the ISIS consists of Muslims who are performing Islam. If only everyone else, including most political leaders, could be as honest.
In many ways that is similar to Islam. except we have no clear distinction of sects or divisions.
We even consider the Christians, Jews and Sabeeans of the past as having been Muslim as they practiced Islam.
Some of us even contend that the Jews, Christians, Sabeans, Hindus and some additional monotheistic religions are performing Islam to the best of their ability and knowledge. If for no fault of their own they have no knowledge of Muhammad(saws) or the Qur'an it is possible they are Muslims without knowing that is the name of what they are doing.
A Muslim is simply a person who perfoms Islam with sincerity to the best of his/her ability and knowledge. Perfection is not required, just the best in accordance with an individuals ability and knowledge.It is not up to us to judge if they are or are not Muslim. That depends on what is in their hearts, thoughts, sincerity and intentions which we have no way of knowing.
There are no membership requirements to be a Muslim, that is strictly between the individual and God(swt). We do not know who is a Muslim, we only know who says he is a Muslim.
Sorry Wood, but you guys should fix that. If you hang with those who kill you'll be a casualty and an innocent bystander for them.
When a religious group basing their beliefs in the Quran go into say Mali, and take hostages and then release those who can quote from the Quran and kill those who cannot Muslims will be under scrutiny.
By the way those hostages in Mali were just captured today, and those who quoted your version of the bible were set free.
All religions who have tried this have learned in the past. When Christians tried this with the Indians they were ALL seen as a threat. The fact that Muslims can't clear away from Muslims that kill for their religion is their fault, not the fault of those who are afraid of dying. You guys should rectify this and stop thinking it's the job of those who aren't Muslim, and are only terrorized by a portion of your religion. It's your job, not ours. I'm not religious at all, and I don't want to be forced to be Muslim under the threat of losing my life.
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It's refreshing to see a Muslim acknowledge that the ISIS consists of Muslims who are performing Islam. If only everyone else, including most political leaders, could be as honest.
Yes, hence some wanting to track all Muslims to make sure they are sane, and loving because hey, anyone can join, and there is no tie that bonds those who are good or bad. Muslims can't protect themselves, or anyone else from other Muslims. It's a grab bag. Now that some of those in the bag are blowing up others profiling will commence. It's human nature to protect and not an ounce of pc will get rid of that instinct.
Therefore, those Muslims killing those who don't practice like they do includes killing peaceful Muslims. Plus, without a defining ideology Muslims set themselves up for profiling from non Muslims. It's a lose, lose for you guys. Why on earth would anyone who is loving and peaceful choose to be a Muslim? It's attached to killers and terrorists. That in itself should be a "no go" sign from the beginning. To me religion is a choice, and those who chose this one know what comes with it.
Sorry Wood, but you guys should fix that. If you hang with those who kill you'll be a casualty and an innocent bystander for them.
When a religious group basing their beliefs in the Quran go into say Mali, and take hostages and then release those who can quote from the Quran and kill those who cannot Muslims will be under scrutiny.
By the way those hostages in Mali were just captured today, and those who quoted your version of the bible were set free.
All religions who have tried this have learned in the past. When Christians tried this with the Indians they were ALL seen as a threat. The fact that Muslims can't clear away from Muslims that kill for their religion is their fault, not the fault of those who are afraid of dying. You guys should rectify this and stop thinking it's the job of those who aren't Muslim, and are only terrorized by a portion of your religion. It's your job, not ours. I'm not religious at all, and I don't want to be forced to be Muslim under the threat of losing my life.
In real life I very rarely see any Muslims, except when I go to Fago for VA appointments, as I live out in the boonies and my current neighbors have no knowledge of my religious beliefs. I learned, the hard way, that in small towns it is best to not mention religion or politics.
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