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Sad, it all started with this criminal that decided to live somewhere without paying, threatened an officer, and put his child in grave danger. Naturally, being a gun-grabber, you would side with him.
He had a gun. Gun grabbers don't side with people who have guns. That should be obvious, but it takes all kinds to have this kind of argument.
People getting evicted are often in the mood to commit suicide. He might have even had murder suicide in mind, thinking his daughter would be better off dead than alive. These days, suicide by cop is very easy, because of how cowardly cops are and how they panic and start shooting at the first hint that anyone might have a gun. In this case the guy actually did have a gun, but in way too many other cases it was just the cop's imagination. Cops should wear bullet proof vests and should back off at the first sign of violence, until they get reinforcement. If the guy intended to kill the cop, why did he not pull the trigger? This is why we should disarm all cops and should somehow find the competence to disarm everyone else too, even though this is the USA and competence is practically a foreign word. When cops besiege someone, they should have the patience to try for a better outcome. Backing off, getting reinforcement, getting negotiation experts, etc. If the guy didn't pull the trigger when he first saw the cop, why would he pull it when the cop was backing away? Getting evicted, and having no place for him and his daughter to live, he might have been in the mood for a murder suicide, of him and his daughter. But he probably wasn't sure if that was what he wanted to do. Backing away would have given him a chance to reconsider, and his daughter might still be alive. But no, cops are not only cowardly, they panic at the thought of showing any fear. Backing away would show fear, which is not acceptable to cops, because of the same ego problem that makes them want to be cops in the first place.
People getting evicted are often in the mood to commit suicide. He might have even had murder suicide in mind, thinking his daughter would be better off dead than alive. These days, suicide by cop is very easy, because of how cowardly cops are and how they panic and start shooting at the first hint that anyone might have a gun. In this case the guy actually did have a gun, but in way too many other cases it was just the cop's imagination. Cops should wear bullet proof vests and should back off at the first sign of violence, until they get reinforcement. If the guy intended to kill the cop, why did he not pull the trigger? This is why we should disarm all cops and should somehow find the competence to disarm everyone else too, even though this is the USA and competence is practically a foreign word. When cops besiege someone, they should have the patience to try for a better outcome. Backing off, getting reinforcement, getting negotiation experts, etc. If the guy didn't pull the trigger when he first saw the cop, why would he pull it when the cop was backing away? Getting evicted, and having no place for him and his daughter to live, he might have been in the mood for a murder suicide, of him and his daughter. But he probably wasn't sure if that was what he wanted to do. Backing away would have given him a chance to reconsider, and his daughter might still be alive. But no, cops are not only cowardly, they panic at the thought of showing any fear. Backing away would show fear, which is not acceptable to cops, because of the same ego problem that makes them want to be cops in the first place.
You must be the bravest person in the world. You would just let the guy point a gun at you and take the chance that he won't shoot. Monday morning quarterbacking at it's finest, with just an added dose of cop hatred. Feel free to sign up and show everybody how brave you are.
My first lesson in firearms: Do not point a gun at someone unless you are planning to shoot.
My first lesson in firearms: Do not point a gun at someone unless you are planning to shoot.
If 8 cops are surrounding a person with a gun and telling him to drop it, they're violating your lesson, because, by your logic, they should have told him to drop it before they pointed their guns at him, and once they point their guns at him they should go ahead and shoot? You sound too bloodthirsty to live in a civilized country. Assuming we ever become one.
Or what if they think he might have a gun? By your logic they shouldn't point their guns at him till they're sure he does? Or they should just go ahead and shoot just in case he has a gun? Way too bloodthirsty.
If 8 cops are surrounding a person with a gun and telling him to drop it, they're violating your lesson, because, by your logic, they should have told him to drop it before they pointed their guns at him, and once they point their guns at him they should go ahead and shoot? You sound too bloodthirsty to live in a civilized country. Assuming we ever become one.
Or what if they think he might have a gun? By your logic they shouldn't point their guns at him till they're sure he doesn't? Or they should just go ahead and shoot just in case he has a gun? Way too bloodthirsty.
If the guy is pointing his gun at any one of them he should be shot dead. That isn't being bloodthirsty.
People getting evicted are often in the mood to commit suicide. He might have even had murder suicide in mind, thinking his daughter would be better off dead than alive. These days, suicide by cop is very easy, because of how cowardly cops are and how they panic and start shooting at the first hint that anyone might have a gun. In this case the guy actually did have a gun, but in way too many other cases it was just the cop's imagination. Cops should wear bullet proof vests and should back off at the first sign of violence, until they get reinforcement. If the guy intended to kill the cop, why did he not pull the trigger? This is why we should disarm all cops and should somehow find the competence to disarm everyone else too, even though this is the USA and competence is practically a foreign word. When cops besiege someone, they should have the patience to try for a better outcome. Backing off, getting reinforcement, getting negotiation experts, etc. If the guy didn't pull the trigger when he first saw the cop, why would he pull it when the cop was backing away? Getting evicted, and having no place for him and his daughter to live, he might have been in the mood for a murder suicide, of him and his daughter. But he probably wasn't sure if that was what he wanted to do. Backing away would have given him a chance to reconsider, and his daughter might still be alive. But no, cops are not only cowardly, they panic at the thought of showing any fear. Backing away would show fear, which is not acceptable to cops, because of the same ego problem that makes them want to be cops in the first place.
There is just so much in this post that I can't even.....
But I will address the bolded part: Please show proof of the "way too many" cases that it was just the cop's imagination.
You must be the bravest person in the world. You would just let the guy point a gun at you and take the chance that he won't shoot. Monday morning quarterbacking at it's finest, with just an added dose of cop hatred. Feel free to sign up and show everybody how brave you are.
Are you saying you're less cowardly than I am? It's easy to talk like that on a forum when your name is budlight, and no telling what's inside. It should be obvious that what I'm talking about is what a cop should do, not what I should do. What I should do is not have a gun in the first place, and not get in that kind of confrontation. But this is about a cop, not about me. Which should be obvious, if this were a reasonable discussion.
We should only hire brave cops. Cops who aren't afraid to back away and get reinforcements when confronted with guns. If some of them die, that's one of the consequences of being a brave cop. The only kind of cop we should ever hire. Bulletproof vests, training to evade gunfights, etc., can help a lot, but we have to expect that when we hire people for confrontations, not all of them are going to survive those confrontations. They should get hazardous duty pay, and should be trained extensively for all kinds of confrontations and outcomes, not just sent out with a gun and instructions to pull the trigger in any situation that makes them feel panic.
If the guy is pointing his gun at any one of them he should be shot dead. That isn't being bloodthirsty.
In way too many situations, the guy turns out to not even have a gun. The cops just panic and start shooting, from fear of an imaginary gun.
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