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My 18 year old (severe autism with explosive rage disorder, 6'5 & 280 lbs), has just been selected as a case study subject, for a University of Colorado study regarding the management of SPED students with severe behavioral needs that involve physically violent episodes. The study begins later this month & if it is published, I'd be happy to share the link. I'm VERY happy to participate in research that will help provide safe & appropriate education for SPED students & the (mostly) amazing people who work with them.
My 6'4. 260LB older ex-athlete brother (Evergreen Co) has a special needs son with Asperger's who is nowhere near your sons level as far as meltdown. But as my brother got into his 50-60's and his son grew to 6'5, 330 lbs he could no longer control the boy. The son seriously hurt my brother several times.
He's now in a home in Phoenix and they are all much happier. No one here can even begin to imagine your daily struggles.
It would be interesting to know this boys history and family situation.
My 6'4. 260LB older ex-athlete brother (Evergreen Co) has a special needs son with Asperger's who is nowhere near your sons level as far as meltdown. But as my brother got into his 50-60's and his son grew to 6'5, 330 lbs he could no longer control the boy. The son seriously hurt my brother several times.
He's now in a home in Phoenix and they are all much happier. No one here can even begin to imagine your daily struggles.
It would be interesting to know this boys history and family situation.
The situation you described is when an adult person would be put in a Group Home and go to Day Hab. There would be staff trained to manage them. Specially for adult male "Consumers"(not THUGS), staff would also be young, big, strong men.
Cannot expect parents in their 50's and 60's to be able to handle their special needs adult children, whether severely mentally, or even physically disabled.
Before I worked as Special Ed TA, I was a "Mental Heath Technician" working with MR/DD adults in Day Hab and Group Homes. An out of control 5 year old? I once had a 35 year old, 6 ft., 200 lb. man pick up a 32 inch flat screen TV and attempt to throw it at me. Can a 5 year old do that????? I seriously question this teacher's expertise. At the very least, it sounds like this student needed a 1:1 Para, but that requires $$$ which the school may not have wanted to provide. Yes, I have worked as a 1:1 for an Autistic 5 year old who had a history of biting, kicking, and hitting. My 6 year old Grandson is on the spectrum, very strong, and can get violent. When his school was closed during the pandemic, he regressed. Online school did not work.
BTW, first part of SCIP training (in FLORIDA), we were told to use our BRAINS and MOUTHS above all else.
I don't think anyone said he had mental health issues. He is classified as having a disability, and depending what kind of disability, violent outbursts are not out of the norm. You say "give me a grown adult or a teen thug and all bets are off". I'm not sure if you're talking about adults with developmental disabilities or not, but violent behavior is part and parcel (and the reason I never wanted to work with adults with DD) but I find it offensive to call them "thugs". They are basically adults with the mental capacity of toddlers. It's a dangerous setting to work in. But they aren't "bad" in the sense you are using it.
He is in a special needs classroom. IDK if it's mental or emotional but it doesn't seem to be a physical disability. I don't work with special needs so if I was being attacked by a grown adult or thug I wouldn't know if they had some mental or social issues and I certainly wouldn't try to diagnose them before defending myself in any way I chose to.
Not just for your own adult self defense, but in a school setting need to protect other students from being attacked. I was hired as a 1:1 to protect the other kids from Timmy biting, kicking and hitting them . Far more important than the adults. Children are the priority not the adult staff. If am adult staff snd cannot do or like that , find another job.
He is in a special needs classroom. IDK if it's mental or emotional but it doesn't seem to be a physical disability. I don't work with special needs so if I was being attacked by a grown adult or thug I wouldn't know if they had some mental or social issues and I certainly wouldn't try to diagnose them before defending myself in any way I chose to.
It was a school setting. He doesn't need a physical disability to be considered to have a disability.
I assumed you'd know the disability if you were working in that setting. That's the context I used to ask you about adults with DD. This child was in a special needs classroom. I really am not sure what your intention is throwing the word "thug" around in the context of adults or children with special needs.
It was a school setting. He doesn't need a physical disability to be considered to have a disability.
I assumed you'd know the disability if you were working in that setting. That's the context I used to ask you about adults with DD. This child was in a special needs classroom. I really am not sure what your intention is throwing the word "thug" around in the context of adults or children with special needs.
I didn't say he needed a physical disability.
I didn't call a special needs person a thug. If I was being attacked by an adult how would I know if they were special needs? I'm going to do whatever it takes to defend myself, whether from a random thug or a mental case.
I didn't call a special needs person a thug. If I was being attacked by an adult how would I know if they were special needs? I'm going to do whatever it takes to defend myself, whether from a random thug or a mental case.
You made it sound like if you were working in a special needs setting and were attacked, you would attack back. You said if you were in the classroom the kid would have gone flying, and if it was an adult all bets would be off. I believe it was you, but in any case that was what I was responding to. If you were just talking about random attack on the street that is not relevant to the thread, which is about special needs educational setting.
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My 18 year old (severe autism with explosive rage disorder, 6'5 & 280 lbs), has just been selected as a case study subject, for a University of Colorado study regarding the management of SPED students with severe behavioral needs that involve physically violent episodes. The study begins later this month & if it is published, I'd be happy to share the link. I'm VERY happy to participate in research that will help provide safe & appropriate education for SPED students & the (mostly) amazing people who work with them.
