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I hope I'm never in that position to find out what I would do if it was a special needs, out of control 5 year old. Give me a grown adult or a teen thug and all bets are off.
I recently watched a documentary about a boy who was "bad". It was a real eye opener to understanding dangerous behavioral issues, neurological issues being ruled out and being treated for it at a younger age. IMO, too many kids are just being labeled with "mental health" issues and put on meds. I think it takes away from the children who have true medical or mental issues.
I don't think anyone said he had mental health issues. He is classified as having a disability, and depending what kind of disability, violent outbursts are not out of the norm. You say "give me a grown adult or a teen thug and all bets are off". I'm not sure if you're talking about adults with developmental disabilities or not, but violent behavior is part and parcel (and the reason I never wanted to work with adults with DD) but I find it offensive to call them "thugs". They are basically adults with the mental capacity of toddlers. It's a dangerous setting to work in. But they aren't "bad" in the sense you are using it.
It has always been the responsibility of the school system to provide each child an appropriate education. This isn’t about raising a child it’s about raising a child with a disability or multiple disabilities, and they need to be taught how to do that. Some here persist in believing it’s a discipline issue, it’s not.
Not until there was Legislation passed that REQUIRED school districts to provide those needs have districts been responsible for doing it
Before they would just say “we can’t provide what this child needs”.
They did very little screening for problems like dyslexia or other learning disabilities
There was a visual screening and a hearing screening in elementary school but nothing beyond that until in the last 25 yrs or so…
And children with emotional and learning and physical disabilities DO have anger management issues
That is part of what they are supposed to be helped to understand—how to manage their frustration and not strike out physically….
Note this article from Yale Medicine School states that anger management issues are often accompanied by other more severe issues…which fall into special needs categories like ADHD, being on the autism spectrum, obsessive-compulsive disorders, and Tourette’s Syndrome…
Regardless of what the child did or didn't do, I take issue with us putting criminal charges on children before they can/should truly be held responsible for their actions in life-changing ways. While one can debate the age someone should face criminal charges (14 and up is commonly tossed about), 5 definitely seems extreme. And if someone is disabled and that is causing/contributing to the behavior, even more so criminal charges are inappropriate.
Regardless of what the child did or didn't do, I take issue with us putting criminal charges on children before they can/should truly be held responsible for their actions in life-changing ways. While one can debate the age someone should face criminal charges (14 and up is commonly tossed about), 5 definitely seems extreme. And if someone is disabled and that is causing/contributing to the behavior, even more so criminal charges are inappropriate.
I agree. I dont know why they would even consider criminal charges.
It always irritates me when people defend underage laws for alcohol and tobacco with the defense that the human brain is not fully developed until age 25, then want to talk about charging a kid or charging a minor as an adult.
So they ARE trained & do use, crisis management, including restraint. She seems to be making an excuse for somebody. I highly doubt this teacher even tried to use her training on this student. Another stupid statement from Ms. Fusco in the People article:
"Teachers and staff are not allowed to touch students."
Yeah? My SPED kid was still in diapers in the 5th grade. You'd better believe that staff "touches" students. They also restrained him from injuring others, self-injurious behaviors & elopement. You can't take care of SPED kids if you don't touch them. How ridiculous.
I am not ready to condemn this teacher. She might have been in over her head due to poor training. She might have not been allowed to physically restrain students.
Regardless of what the child did or didn't do, I take issue with us putting criminal charges on children before they can/should truly be held responsible for their actions in life-changing ways. While one can debate the age someone should face criminal charges (14 and up is commonly tossed about), 5 definitely seems extreme. And if someone is disabled and that is causing/contributing to the behavior, even more so criminal charges are inappropriate.
I agree. They did say they aren't charging him now, so not sure if that was the case in the beginning and it was reported incorrectly, or if they realized the lunacy of charging a 5 year old special ed student.
I am not ready to condemn this teacher. She might have been in over her head due to poor training. She might have not been allowed to physically restrain students.
In special ed teachers are absolutely allowed to restrain students. Often it's the only way to keep the students safe. I worked with an autistic teen who would make a dash for the doors if we went past them. You had to hold him back or he'd have run off. I agree she might not have been properly trained.
I agree. They did say they aren't charging him now, so not sure if that was the case in the beginning and it was reported incorrectly, or if they realized the lunacy of charging a 5 year old special ed student.
The fact that charges like that against a 5 year old were even considered in the first place, just shows how insane this country has become.
America: the freest country in the world, with the most people locked up.
Curious if anyone knows what happens to a child who behaves like this in China under the "social credit" system?
Well a five year old would not face any charges in China. Although China is heading in that direction too. China just lowered the age of criminal responsibility from 14 to 12.
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