Rick Perry's college transcript! (Howe, Canadian: move, health, rank)

[dgz]

Originally Posted by mikeh19468

Before laying all the blame for the direction the country is going in, keep in mind that executive is only 1 branch. Dems have been blaming the Tea Party and the Republicans for the economic turmoil of the last few months due to obstructionism. And they only control the House. The Dems had both houses from 2006 on, and also had the Senate during the first two years of Bush's first term. They are far from blameless for much of what's going on with the economy right now...

But the branches aren't totally separate. Consider the influence that Bush had on the Judicial branch.

And yes, the blame is not all on one side. The Dems are very lame, apologetic, and overly compromising. If there was a third party that was moderate-left vs. the Dems who are moderate-right, I would vote for it. Other than a few Dems, I would love to see the rest of them replaced in their Primary elections.

[EDS_]

Originally Posted by dgz

But the branches aren't totally separate. Consider the influence that Bush had on the Judicial branch.

And yes, the blame is not all on one side. The Dems are very lame, apologetic, and overly compromising. If there was a third party that was moderate-left vs. the Dems who are moderate-right, I would vote for it. Other than a few Dems, I would love to see the rest of them replaced in their Primary elections.

Democrats are moderate right?

[dgz]

Originally Posted by EDS_

Democrats are moderate right?

Yes, with the exception of a few, they are moderate right. The country has been shifting further and further to the right since Reagan. Clinton helped push things to the right as well.

Republicans - far right (except for a few moderates, who are rarely heard)

Democrat - moderately right (except for a few who lean toward the left, who are rarely heard)

And that's pretty much all there is. This dichotomy that there is a right and a left in the US is a false one. If you read widely on politics within several European countries (UK, France, Germany, Spain), you see a much wider range of discussion on policies. You have extremes there, but there is a much broader middle. The discussion here falls moderate to right to far right.

[EDS_]

Originally Posted by dgz

Yes, with the exception of a few, they are moderate right. The country has been shifting further and further to the right since Reagan. Clinton helped push things to the right as well.

Republicans - far right (except for a few moderates, who are rarely heard)

Democrat - moderately right (except for a few who lean toward the left, who are rarely heard)

And that's pretty much all there is. This dichotomy that there is a right and a left in the US is a false one. If you read widely on politics within several European countries (UK, France, Germany, Spain), you see a much wider range of discussion on policies. You have extremes there, but there is a much broader middle. The discussion here falls moderate to right to far right.

If you picked 100 random Americans from the street.....how many would claim that that today's democrats are center right? Two or three? Five?

If you honestly believe that your are seriously out of touch.

[dgz]

Originally Posted by EDS_

If you picked 100 random Americans from the street.....how many would claim that that today's democrats are center right? Two or three? Five?

If you honestly believe that your are seriously out of touch.

I think that most of them would not claim that because they have not seen the shift to the right. Most people observe changes within very small timeframes. That's why someone can spend a huge amount of time consuming media and yet have no perspective. This is particularly so for someone who is younger who may not have the knowledge or memory of the political dialogue of 15, 20 30 years ago. Consider Dwight Eisenhower's caveats about the 'military industrial complex.' I could not imagine a Republican saying something like that. Additionally, he also signed the bill for the Interstate Highway System and that doesn't something a Republican would support now either.

[Im Lost]

That transcript isn't going to hurt him too much considering it was 40 years ago..... what will hurt him is his record in Texas as the Governor by people that understand the issues. I can't see him winning the GOP nomination.

[EDS_]

Originally Posted by dgz

I think that most of them would not claim that because they have not seen the shift to the right. Most people observe changes within very small timeframes. That's why someone can spend a huge amount of time consuming media and yet have no perspective. This is particularly so for someone who is younger who may not have the knowledge or memory of the political dialogue of 15, 20 30 years ago. Consider Dwight Eisenhower's caveats about the 'military industrial complex.' I could not imagine a Republican saying something like that. Additionally, he also signed the bill for the Interstate Highway System and that doesn't something a Republican would support now either.

I'm almost speechless. I don't know if you are trying to be funny or serious.

[Mr Grieves]

Originally Posted by dgz

Yes, with the exception of a few, they are moderate right. The country has been shifting further and further to the right since Reagan. Clinton helped push things to the right as well.

Republicans - far right (except for a few moderates, who are rarely heard)

Democrat - moderately right (except for a few who lean toward the left, who are rarely heard)

And that's pretty much all there is. This dichotomy that there is a right and a left in the US is a false one. If you read widely on politics within several European countries (UK, France, Germany, Spain), you see a much wider range of discussion on policies. You have extremes there, but there is a much broader middle. The discussion here falls moderate to right to far right.

This is absolutely true, case and point, the Blue Dog Democrats are the group most responsible for watering down the healthcare bill, they were then referred to as the "Blue Cross" Dems. The system is set up where so much cash is needed to be elected and the corporations are supplying it, and many are taking it. The system makes it almost impossible to be on the left and elected unless you live in Vermont, or certain counties in Northern California.

[BigDGeek]

Originally Posted by EDS_

If you picked 100 random Americans from the street.....how many would claim that that today's democrats are center right? Two or three? Five?

If you honestly believe that your are seriously out of touch.

Compared to Canadian and European leftists, our Democrats are definitely moderate-right.

[HOAPRESIDENT]

Originally Posted by EDS_

I'm almost speechless. I don't know if you are trying to be funny or serious.

In comparison to world politics, the Democrats are moderate right. In European, South American, African and Asian countries, the Communist Party still exists in relatively strong numbers. I think it may be you who is out of touch internationally.