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Old 07-13-2023, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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And then we could hope the school offers curriculums along those paths.
Actually I don't agree with that.
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Old 07-13-2023, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Central Mass
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And then we could hope the school offers curriculums along those paths.
Should be earlier, like 7th grade.

People who go into trades here usually go to voke high schools.
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Old 07-13-2023, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Here's a list of 1,388 professions: https://www.careerplanner.com/ListOfCareers.cfm

Learning more about them (and more) is what post-secondary education is about.

Here's another list of professions/jobs: https://list.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_occupations
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Old 07-13-2023, 11:19 AM
 
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Actually I don't agree with that.
So we're just going to entice them with possible choices and then waste their time for the next three years with a curriculum that doesn't take them where they want to go?
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Old 07-13-2023, 11:20 AM
 
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Should be earlier, like 7th grade.

People who go into trades here usually go to voke high schools.
Most communities don't have those high schools available anymore.
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Old 07-13-2023, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Should be earlier, like 7th grade.

People who go into trades here usually go to voke high schools.
You seem to presume that small districts can afford a vocational high school.
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Old 07-13-2023, 11:38 AM
 
Location: SF/Mill Valley
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During the first semester of a student's junior year (or should it be second semester of the sophomore year?), each student should take a course called something like "Planning Your Future". The first 9 weeks could be spent as an overview of various career/work paths and how to look into them. The second 9 weeks could be spent on helping students explore more deeply their stated chosen paths.
Doesn’t preparation for any trade require the completion of a basic high-school education (or equivalent), first and foremost, anyway? In other words, the most important assistance one could give is relative to graduation and their general education (no matter their later career choice) - particularly regarding technology, as a whole.
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Old 07-13-2023, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Doesn’t preparation for any trade require the completion of a basic high-school education (or equivalent), first and foremost, anyway? In other words, the most important assistance one could give is relative to graduation and their general education (no matter their later career choice) - particularly regarding technology, as a whole.
Exactly. High school cannot cater to hundreds or even thousands of career choices. That where students can select their next step after graduation.

What's interesting about this thread is that some posters don't want schools to push college. They want schools to push what they want. No principle involved.
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Old 07-13-2023, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Central Mass
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You seem to presume that small districts can afford a vocational high school.
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Most communities don't have those high schools available anymore.
Small districts here don't even have high schools. There are a lot of regional high schools for rural towns, and then voke districts are even bigger.

So an example:
Bay Path Regional Voke Tech HS in Charlton, MA. Serves Auburn, Charlton, Dudley, North Brookfield, Oxford, Paxton, Rutland, Spencer, Southbridge, and Webster.
Auburn, Oxford, Spencer, Southbridge, and Webster have their own high school
Charlton, Dudley share a regional high school
N. Brookfield has a tiny middle-high school (225 students in 7-12 grade!)
Paxton and Rutland go to another regional high school with three other towns that could go to a different regional voke school.
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Old 07-13-2023, 12:51 PM
 
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Exactly. High school cannot cater to hundreds or even thousands of career choices. That where students can select their next step after graduation.

What's interesting about this thread is that some posters don't want schools to push college. They want schools to push what they want. No principle involved.
Nobody said that. Strawman.

What we've said is that schools should also offer a curriculum for kids who want to purse advanced technical training.

And we know so-called "general education" doesn't meet either goal. Otherwise, they'd get three solid years of algebra and plane geometry, business mathematics, mechanical and electrical principles, business law, technical reading and writing, and such.
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