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My point was why couldn’t school be open year round with multiple options for individual classes spread throughout the year and let the kids and parents pick their own schedule. For example have a 4 week block course of 6th grade level Romeo and Juliet in say January, July and November and let all 11-12 year olds pick when to go.
School Teachers get sick days and personnel days .........you go year round school all teachers will get Vacation weeks. There are no subs now, what then?
School Teachers get sick days and personnel days .........you go year round school all teachers will get Vacation weeks. There are no subs now, what then?
Year-round schools still have shorter breaks for students and staff. Just not the 3-month long summer vacation we have today.
A lot of year-round schools have 2-week breaks between quarters so teachers would still get 8 weeks off when schools are closed. Minus whatever mandatory prep days are included in their contracts. That is better than most of the rest of the working world.
Year-round schools still have shorter breaks for students and staff. Just not the 3-month long summer vacation we have today.
A lot of year-round schools have 2-week breaks between quarters so teachers would still get 8 weeks off when schools are closed. Minus whatever mandatory prep days are included in their contracts. That is better than most of the rest of the working world.
Where is it three months now? We varied between 7 and 9 weeks. Typically June 20 or so to August 15.
Where is it three months now? We varied between 7 and 9 weeks. Typically June 20 or so to August 15.
You have to add in Christmas and spring break which gives you 3 more weeks off. And some schools take a week off at Thanksgiving too.
9+3=12 weeks which is 3 months.
Calculating it another way. The standard American school year is 180 days. That is typically broken up into two semesters of 18 weeks long, or a 36 week school year. There are 52 weeks in a year. 52-36 = 16 weeks off for students per year. That is nearly 4 months spread across the year with the largest break coming in the summer.
You have to add in Christmas and spring break which gives you 3 more weeks off. And some schools take a week off at Thanksgiving too.
9+3=12 weeks which is 3 months.
Calculating it another way. The standard American school year is 180 days. That is typically broken up into two semesters of 18 weeks long, or a 36 week school year. There are 52 weeks in a year. 52-36 = 16 weeks off for students per year. That is nearly 4 months spread across the year with the largest break coming in the summer.
For teaching staff, at least in my state, add in the additional 15-20 days to that 180.
For teaching staff, at least in my state, add in the additional 15-20 days to that 180.
For comparison, a typical full time labor year is around 1820-1920 hours, after allowing for vacation and other time. A 190 day work year for schools would be around 1520 hours, or 300 less than the typical FTE.
For comparison, a typical full time labor year is around 1820-1920 hours, after allowing for vacation and other time. A 190 day work year for schools would be around 1520 hours, or 300 less than the typical FTE.
I understand. I’m not saying the contracted days are the same. I was just pointing out that the teacher contract is more than the 180. Previous posts referred to students and staff.
For teaching staff, at least in my state, add in the additional 15-20 days to that 180.
20 is a stretch. Ten is probably closer to the mark in the states where I've worked (Texas and Washington). But if we use 20 that gets us to 200 days or 40 weeks of work. Out of a 52 week year, that leaves 12 weeks off, which is roughly 3 months.
Look, I'm a teacher and generally defend teachers. But the notion that teachers don't get a lot of time off (around 3 months) is absurd. Most teaching contracts are for 39 weeks which means teachers are not paid for 13 weeks out of the year. School districts typically take salaries and pro-rate them for 12 months so you get 12 paychecks. But summers and even Christmas break is not actually paid time off. You were never paid for that time to begin with. My wife is not a teacher and I have a good idea of what a normal professional working year is like.
It is entirely accurate to say that teachers get 3 months off per year. But technically it is unpaid time off, not paid time.
And yes, there are some teachers who do professional development or other duties in the summer. There are summer AP workshops and such. But you technically don't need to do those things. There are usually plenty of professional development activities during the school year with which you can get your required hours. And if teachers are actually working in the summer such as teaching summer school, then they get paid for it.
I checked the calendars of a few local school districts in Western PA and found the following for teachers and students.
District 1: Teacher days - 187; student days - 180
District 2: Teacher days - 184; student days - 176
District 3: Teacher days - 185; student days - 175
District 4: Teacher days - 186; student days - 180
District 5: Teacher days - 192; student days - 182
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