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Old 10-06-2016, 01:46 PM
 
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What could he possibly do to prepare himself for the town hall debate coming up in a few days?

In addition to not being all that comfortable with a give-and-take atmosphere, and defending his platform that even his vice president has apparently abandoned, several new items have come to light.

After the last debate, he got into it with Latina beauty queen he reportedly called fat and "Miss Housekeeping." In the middle of the night, he tweeted for people to watch her porn film. Turns out she wasn't in a porn film. Turns out he was.

Also turns out he violated the Cuban embargo. There was some attempt to pass it off as a charitable endeavor. No one is buying it.

Seems he hasn't paid any federal tax in nearly twenty years due to a financial setback in 1995. Trump stated that he was "smart" for doing this. Christie and Giuliani have gone on TV to defend him as a "brilliant" "genius." Others take a somewhat dimmer view.

Trump Foundation does not appear to be operating within the law.

Then he made a thoughtless remark about those who struggle with PTSD not being as strong as others. So far, no apology.

Pence went on TV and denied the two of them said things that anyone can find on Youtube within seconds. He also disagreed with Trump in several areas. Trump will either need to back off of some of his key proposals or call Pence out.

Polls could go up after this town hall meeting, but it's a long shot.

One 'prepares' by anticipating possible questions that may be asked, and having answers at your fingertips. Indeed, you laid out a multitude of issues that Mr. Trump should be prepared to answer, or explain away, etc.


While I have never appeared in front of the Supreme Court, I know that those that do prepare themselves in this way: one, they have their prepared argument ready; however, two, they try to anticipate what questions the Justices will throw at them (one attorney lamented that he never was able to get beyond his opening sentence before being interrupted by questions). The good attorney will be able to pinpoint the weak points in his or her case, and anticipate questions attacking those weak points.


Just so Mr. Trump and Ms. Clinton. They should be anticipating questions that they would probably rather not be asked. However, 'wishing' that such questions not be asked is courting disaster.


I have little doubt that Ms. Clinton will be prepared for whatever is asked her. I have my doubts that Mr. Trump will be as prepared. He has had his sycophants telling him how marvelous he was in the first debate (Rudy, Christie, to name but two), and he probably chooses to believe them. He mentioned once about the perceived danger of being 'over-prepared' for a debate, so he opted to avoid that danger by being under-prepared.


I imagine that the audience for this second debate will be much less than the first. One reason may well be due to the hurricane, which may still be tracking up the eastern coastline. Indeed, the news is so taken up by the hurricane that politics is pretty much taking a back seat right now. Mr. Trump is losing valuable time to try to convince the independent voters that he is more 'presidential' than he has so far portrayed.

 
Old 10-06-2016, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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One 'prepares' by anticipating possible questions that may be asked, and having answers at your fingertips. Indeed, you laid out a multitude of issues that Mr. Trump should be prepared to answer, or explain away, etc.
Trump's preparation will consist of audience-tested insults and the scribbling of the following words on a 3x5 index card.

Emails
Benghazi
Lewinsky
NAFTA

That's basically it. If the moderator asks him a question about, say, entitlements that requires a command of policy details, then he's toast. You might as well put anyone from this forum on that stage and they'b be better prepared to answer those question than the Donald.
 
Old 10-06-2016, 02:34 PM
 
Location: North America
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nice to see some polls today that have a little bit better news for Trump in some states. He still is in trouble though
A little worse too. Pretty much a mixed bag for him.
 
Old 10-06-2016, 02:35 PM
 
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Emerson polls are tailor-made for Trump to do well in (landline only) yet he trails in Arizona?

Now we know why he was out there campaigning a few days ago. The internal polls must be dreadful.
That and several sources are reporting huge surges in latino registration as well.
 
Old 10-06-2016, 02:39 PM
 
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The polls in 2012 had Obama substantially ahead Until he lost the first debate. Obama then took a dive, never to underdog, but never at the heights of September in polls.

Turnout and what Johnson/Stein voters do are the issues, not undecided voters.
He never lost ground in the state polls. Which is why 538 always had him winning. Johnson and Stein are starting to collapse in the polls somewhat. They were never going to get the support they had even a month ago. None of them is all that inspiring. As for turnout we will have to see.
 
Old 10-06-2016, 03:26 PM
 
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Trump's preparation will consist of audience-tested insults and the scribbling of the following words on a 3x5 index card.

Emails
Benghazi
Lewinsky
NAFTA

That's basically it. If the moderator asks him a question about, say, entitlements that requires a command of policy details, then he's toast. You might as well put anyone from this forum on that stage and they'b be better prepared to answer those question than the Donald.
Audience tested Facts about Hillary's bad, bad, record is what Trump should know by heart. A surprise or two from her past as well. The post- 1st debate media attention was about Machado and Miss Piggy, not trade, ISIS, or policy. Policy is overrated in debates/town halls. Zingers, sound bites, and awful mistakes matter much more. If we go through presidential debate history, I can give you many more where the winner and loser were based on quips, appearance, terrible answers to surprise questions than you can give where policy made the difference.


If Trump can be trained to actually string together 6-10 coherent sentences about policy, 3 or 4 platitudes about the subject, that's enough.
 
Old 10-06-2016, 03:58 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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That and several sources are reporting huge surges in latino registration as well.
Yup. Trump has really mobilized the Latino population to register like never before. Sadly for Trump he won't be getting those votes. Arizona could very well go for the Democrats this time around.

Montini: Record-breaking Latino voter registration in Arizona is NOT historic

Ken
 
Old 10-06-2016, 04:02 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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That's right, Ken, Trump is going to get CRUSHED !

Just party on Nov. 8, no need to waste time going to vote,
she's got this ! It's all rigged ! Yuppers...
Me not vote?
Dream on.



And NO it's NOT "rigged". Trump is simply the worst candidate EVER to run for the office of President from a major party.
After Trump is crushed in the election THEN the REAL fun begins as the GOP turns on itself and tears itself apart with all it's finger pointing. And the GOP will DESERVE IT.
Should be fun to watch.

Ken
 
Old 10-06-2016, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Audience tested Facts about Hillary's bad, bad, record is what Trump should know by heart. A surprise or two from her past as well. The post- 1st debate media attention was about Machado and Miss Piggy, not trade, ISIS, or policy. Policy is overrated in debates/town halls. Zingers, sound bites, and awful mistakes matter much more. If we go through presidential debate history, I can give you many more where the winner and loser were based on quips, appearance, terrible answers to surprise questions than you can give where policy made the difference.


If Trump can be trained to actually string together 6-10 coherent sentences about policy, 3 or 4 platitudes about the subject, that's enough.
In all fairness, the press doesn't have much to say about trade, ISIS or policy because Donald Trump doesn't have anything substantive to say about any of those things:

Trade: Renegotiate our trade deals. Hit China.

ISIS: Secret plan.

Obamacare: Cancel it.

Trump is the type of guy who would stroll into a hospital and criticize surgeons for "not knowing what the hell they're doing." Nobody bothers to lock him in on a very specific policy question.
 
Old 10-06-2016, 04:14 PM
 
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If Trump can be trained to actually string together 6-10 coherent sentences about policy
Oh, dare to dream.
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