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Old 08-16-2016, 01:14 PM
 
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Yeah, it's clearly not going well for Trump. We go into next week and these polls hold steady we can officially say that it's not a convention bounce. I mean technically we can this week but I would prefer to be a bit conservative here.
If he is down by 8 after Labor Day in some of these polls, I predict a all out civil war in September. It will be interesting watching the meltdown.

Silver's latest article showing him dragging down the Senate candidates down ballet is also telling.

The GOP

 
Old 08-16-2016, 01:21 PM
 
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Alan Grayson is by far the best candidate for Democrats against Rubio for people who care about the issues and progressive values. There is no evidence that he beat up his wife but clear evidence that the wife smacked him on the snout.
 
Old 08-16-2016, 01:45 PM
 
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Patrick Murphy is really a republican though. He grew up with a serious bout of affluenza. He donated the maximum amount to Mitt Romney's campaign and he only became a Democratic Congressman when his father donated $100k to the Democrats. He is one of the worst Democrats in Congress according to Progressive Punch, with an extreme far-right voting record:

ProgressivePunch: House Members by score / All issues
In Florida that is a safer bet. Grayson is a loudmouth with a lot of baggage.
 
Old 08-16-2016, 01:50 PM
 
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Alan Grayson is by far the best candidate for Democrats against Rubio for people who care about the issues and progressive values. There is no evidence that he beat up his wife but clear evidence that the wife smacked him on the snout.
No, he's not - he's losing by 11%, while Murphy is down by 5%.

A lousy candidate that can't win can't ever cast a progressive vote.

And by the way, there's nothing progressive about a Grayson fanboy excusing Grayson's domestic violence. Frankly, that's the antithesis of progressivism. But you're all in for the abuser, so you pull the classic misogynist move and blame the victim.

How 'progressive'...
 
Old 08-16-2016, 01:53 PM
 
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In Florida that is a safer bet. Grayson is a loudmouth with a lot of baggage.
A progressive message is a good bet in swing states as people on the fence like "unbought and unbossed" progressives with a message that resonates with ordinary folks. Patrick Murphy has been caught cheating and lying about his credentials and would get mauled by Rubio in a debate. Murphy is an embarrassment to all democrats.
 
Old 08-16-2016, 01:59 PM
 
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No, he's not - he's losing by 11%, while Murphy is down by 5%.

A lousy candidate that can't win can't ever cast a progressive vote.

And by the way, there's nothing progressive about a Grayson fanboy excusing Grayson's domestic violence. Frankly, that's the antithesis of progressivism. But you're all in for the abuser, so you pull the classic misogynist move and blame the victim.

How 'progressive'...
There is zero evidence of him beating his wife. There is video footage of her beating him and also calling the police and admitting he never beat her. She was also married to another man while marrying Grayson. Their daughters side with their father and says she is nuts and he has never beat her.

Its clearly a smear campaign. Murphy is a real embarrassment. A lying far-right politician masquerading as a democrat and serving special interests.
 
Old 08-16-2016, 02:07 PM
 
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Alan Grayson is by far the best candidate for Democrats against Rubio for people who care about the issues and progressive values. There is no evidence that he beat up his wife but clear evidence that the wife smacked him on the snout.
Grayson is a bit much for me...I can't stand his loud annoying ass style..
 
Old 08-16-2016, 02:21 PM
 
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Grayson is a bit much for me...I can't stand his loud annoying ass style..
His style isnt everyone's cup of tea but he is fighting the good fight. He will fight day and night to make sure ordinary folks have a voice in Congress. A champion of the 99%.
 
Old 08-16-2016, 02:51 PM
 
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Yee haw! Trump finds a poll he likes!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...29939811020802

What's new in the online poll is that older millennials are starting to trend to Trump. (this is positive spin on the polling that shows youth is abandoning Trump)

Trump's team believes that online polls more accurately show the horserace because more and more voters prefer to give their opinions anonymously.

A Zogby Analytics survey provided to Secrets Tuesday shows:
Hillary Clinton 38%
Donald Trump 36%
Libertarian Gary Johnson 8%
Green Party Jill Stein 5%
Not sure 13%
 
Old 08-16-2016, 03:04 PM
 
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Past Zogby Polls:

June 30, 2106
Hillary Clinton 39%
Donald Trump 37%
Gary Johnson 5%
Jill Stein 3%
Not sure 17%

Zogby Analytics - Showdown between Clinton and Trump too Close to Call; Trump leads Clinton Big among Independents
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