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Old 11-27-2019, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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Older interview of Yang debating UBI at Libertycon as usual Yang crushes it.

https://youtu.be/33lGelesi5M
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Old 11-27-2019, 09:34 PM
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Location: North Pacific
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thx, BornintheSprings


Andrew Yang could be the underdog to watch in 2020


"There's something about Yang."
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Old 11-28-2019, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Even though I've left the Yang gang (it's clear he is not serious about winning the nomination anyway), I will say this about Yang. He was honest about a very important fact.

Globalism cannot be reversed. Tariffs won't do it. Ethno-nationalism won't do it. That was the promise of Trump that many people were duped by. But that will never happen.

The only choice is to accept the reality of the global economic future and deal with the consequences it presents to society.
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Old 11-28-2019, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Even though I've left the Yang gang (it's clear he is not serious about winning the nomination anyway), I will say this about Yang. He was honest about a very important fact.

Globalism cannot be reversed. Tariffs won't do it. Ethno-nationalism won't do it. That was the promise of Trump that many people were duped by. But that will never happen.

The only choice is to accept the reality of the global economic future and deal with the consequences it presents to society.
Globalism must be reversed.

If not then we should all give up and go home, I don't care anymore.
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Old 11-28-2019, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Globalism must be reversed.

If not then we should all give up and go home, I don't care anymore.
It cannot be.

China has fully embraced automation and global supply chain.

If we don't do the same they will eat our lunch in efficiency and eventually dominate the world.

They will likely replace the US as the most powerful nation in the next 50 years anyway.

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Old 11-28-2019, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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It cannot be.

China has fully embraced automation and global supply chain.

If we don't do the same they will eat our lunch in efficiency and eventually dominate the world.

They will likely replace the US as the most powerful nation in the next 50 years anyway.
Fine, let them.

I'd rather America be a smaller power anyways with a less efficient economy but more cooperative society.

That would mean our government no longer has a responsibility to uphold the power of the global financial elite, and decentralized democracy can grow.

Sadly people in power (politicians/business leaders) won't give up on the gravy train.
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Old 11-28-2019, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Fine, let them.

I'd rather America be a smaller power anyways with a less efficient economy but more cooperative society.

That would mean our government no longer has a responsibility to uphold the power of the global financial elite, and decentralized democracy can grow.

Sadly people in power (politicians/business leaders) won't give up on the gravy train.
You cannot believe how much money is going to be made replacing people with machines in the next 50 years.

I'm on the forefront of this. I'm quitting my 200k corporate software job soon and becoming an entrepreneur because I can easily make more money than this building virtual businesses.

The dam has broken and a protectionist approach won't protect the low skilled American worker.

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Old 11-28-2019, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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You cannot believe how much money is going to be made replacing people with machines in the next 50 years.

I'm on the forefront of this. I'm quitting my 200k corporate software job soon and becoming an entrepreneur because I can easily make more money than this building virtual businesses.

The dam has broken and a protectionist approach won't protect the low skilled American worker.
Automation will naturally slow from smaller business structures. If start-ups don't have growth potential, they won't receive an influx of capital.

Change our property laws and finance laws so that people can hold less capital and have to pool together resources for larger projects.

This will lead to a smaller less efficient economy but happier people with a better social life. Sure the Chinese will surpass us but who cares? I don't.

And trade will be fine, since we no longer have corporate monopoly our external supply chains would be negotiating with foriegn producers, not investors off-shoring jobs to an office on foriegn soil they bought/rented.
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Old 11-28-2019, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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Even though I've left the Yang gang (it's clear he is not serious about winning the nomination anyway),
Wow so you really don't like Yang standing up for himself?
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Old 11-28-2019, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Wow so you really don't like Yang standing up for himself?
It's a token gesture only a non-serious candidate can afford to make.

A serious candidate has to be heard at nearly every opportunity he is afforded to get his message out broadly enough.

That's one thing Trump knew all too well and executed perfectly.
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