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Vermont is a big time rural state with nothing that really resembles a major city in it. Swimming in guns? It has to be for hunting purposes. Dems and Obama are not going to restrict use for that.
according to the constitution and the supreme court, the second amendment was not stated only for hunting purposes. They should restrict it only to the extent outlined within the constitution, any more and it is unconstitutional and against the rights of We the People
How many mass murderers were not fond of guns? How many were? How many owned huge arsenals of weapons before they committed their heinous crimes? How many had an infatuation with assault weapons? How many had violent tendencies that showed themselves before they killed others with guns?
Now contrast these people with those who are in favor of gun control and legislation.
What did you come up with?
I rest my case.
Do you actually think you proved a point? Are you actually going to claim that the vast majority of serial killers and other wackos were NRA members and outspoken advocates of 2nd amendment rights? Prove it.
How do you deal with the fact that 99.9999% of gun owners never commit a violent crime? If guns caused crime, more gun owners would commit crimes.
America's crime problem more to to do with our "culture" and values. Consider the illegal drug impact. Over 40% of crime in the United States is drug-related. When you combine these things with America's gang problems, it's very clear to see where the majority of violent crime comes from. Commonly, there is a link between drugs and gangs. It has been proposed that drug legalization could eliminate a large percentage of crime in the U.S.
Banning guns has never been proven to have a consistent impact on crime. In some places it reduces crime and other places it increases crime. Statistically, one gets a poor cause-effect correlation by analyzing this data. This means that guns are not the key factor!
Gun sales are booming and the media says it's the economy but I think it may be people are worried they won't be able to buy one if Obama is elected and he and a Democrat Congress change the gun laws, so they are buying them now while they still can. I know I've been thinking about it --- that and surgery that isn't to correct a life threatening illness. I figure I'm going to need cataract surgery within the next two years so maybe I better have it done before Inauguration Day.
Here's an article that says it's tied to the economy not Obama. Still...
Do you actually think you proved a point? Are you actually going to claim that the vast majority of serial killers and other wackos were NRA members and outspoken advocates of 2nd amendment rights? Prove it.
How do you deal with the fact that 99.9999% of gun owners never commit a violent crime? If guns caused crime, more gun owners would commit crimes.
America's crime problem more to to do with our "culture" and values. Consider the illegal drug impact. Over 40% of crime in the United States is drug-related. When you combine these things with America's gang problems, it's very clear to see where the majority of violent crime comes from. Commonly, there is a link between drugs and gangs. It has been proposed that drug legalization could eliminate a large percentage of crime in the U.S.
Banning guns has never been proven to have a consistent impact on crime. In some places it reduces crime and other places it increases crime. Statistically, one gets a poor cause-effect correlation by analyzing this data. This means that guns are not the key factor!
amploud,
I agree with with your stance on all but one point. As on one time recreational drug user (hey, I went to college) I do not see the relationship between legal drugs and illegal drugs and a reduction in crime. I actually think drug related crime is not so different than other crime. Wanting what someone else has (greed) will not change because something is legally available. Look at the crime in the banking industry and on Wall Street. I think you were right on your culture and values point. Our current culture, coupled with reduced values, is ripe with greed from the whitest of collars to the bluest of collars. In fact (although I have done no research on this), I am willing to bet white collar crime has a larger influence on the average American than gang related drug crimes (blue collar). Other than an occasional innocent by-stander (which is horrible), the drug related crimes are self policing. As bad as this sounds, one drug related shooting death reduces the problem by one.
Apparently you think that change is going to happen quickly. It doesnt work that way. It can take years for change to take place, and it did.
And the numbers of violent gun crimes went down, furthermore, a majority of D.C. residents SUPPORTED the handgun ban.
A conservative leaning Supreme Court ruled ......commence firing!
DC's ban was in place over 30 years...it didn't work. Don't you realize that disarming citizens emboldens criminals who then feel they can get away with anything?
Vermont is a big time rural state with nothing that really resembles a major city in it. Swimming in guns? It has to be for hunting purposes. Dems and Obama are not going to restrict use for that.
Burlington, etc. And no they aren't all for hunting. I know of quite a few people with machineguns, even one with a legally owned RPG (rocket propelled grenade). The second amendment is not about hunting. The dems should really shut up with the hunting bit on it because they just prove to us they're antis everytime they get on that nonsense.
Getting an assault rifle is like an investment, especially when Obama wins. He's going to make me so much richer He's probably going to make gold illegal to own, and that's when it'll really shoot up in value!
Investing with McCain at the helm is hard, because he changes his mind on what he's going to do. I won't interfere with the free markets...oh, wait...the gubmint will buy your mortgage. lol.
How is Obama going to disarm thugs and drug dealers?
Well, he is going to give them more entitlements, so they no longer have to use guns and violence as a way to break into responsible citizens' homes and rip off our goods to sell on the black market. Since all of them will have freebie homes and bigger checks coming in, they won't have to steal things to fund their lifestyles.
It's the trickle down gun theory.
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