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Old 12-04-2008, 09:31 AM
 
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IIRC - if a person is born in the US or one of its territories that person is a citizen regardless of the nationality or citizenship of the parents. This is the basis of the anchor baby principal used by illegal, and some legal, immigrants to gain a legal foothold in the US.

AFAK President elect Obama has produced a copy of a Hawaiian birth certificate so all this debate is completely pointless.
All Obama provided was a certificate of live birth. That is not a certified birth certificate. We all know he was born alive...


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Old 12-04-2008, 09:32 AM
 
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All Obama provided was a certificate of live birth. That is not a certified birth certificate. We all know he was born alive...


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Still waiting for your response to Buchanan, Arthur, Wilson, and Hoover, and how they are any different from Obama.
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Old 12-04-2008, 09:52 AM
 
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Still waiting for your response to Buchanan, Arthur, Wilson, and Hoover, and how they are any different from Obama.
Have you read Donofrio's case?
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Old 12-04-2008, 10:00 AM
 
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Have you read Donofrio's case?
Yup.

And listened to all of his interviews on Hale's radio station. And read his blog, in which he said:
"In our history as a nation, every President we have ever had was born in the United States to parents who were both US Citizens."

This was his FIRST most important point concerning how he knew that Obama would not be qualified - there is no precedent.

He was wrong. And he has not responded to 2burmdad who pointed the foursome out to him.
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Old 12-04-2008, 10:02 AM
 
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Yet another lawsuit filed in the Supreme Court:

Today, December 3, 2008, Dr. Orly Taitz, DDS Esq filed a second lawsuit in the Supreme Court of California; Lightfoot v. Bowen, docket number S168690. This is a "Petition for Extraordinary Writ of Mandamus for Stay". The coversheet with the submission information can be found here.

http://goexcelglobal.com/share/c146.pdf
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Old 12-04-2008, 10:03 AM
 
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A question to the liberals out there on CD.

Why doesnt obama just get this over with and show him the documents and shut down the case?

It would be easy for him to do so, unless he does in fact have something to hide.

I for one think that it is a load of bunk, but he could shut the whole thing down really fast by going to court and show the documents.
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Old 12-04-2008, 10:08 AM
 
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Yup.

And listened to all of his interviews on Hale's radio station. And read his blog, in which he said:
"In our history as a nation, every President we have ever had was born in the United States to parents who were both US Citizens."

This was his FIRST most important point concerning how he knew that Obama would not be qualified - there is no precedent.

He was wrong. And he has not responded to 2burmdad who pointed the foursome out to him.
There are many highly qualified attorneys that have worked on these cases... What qualifications do you have to suggest these attorneys are wrong? Granted, the interpretation of the Constitution and what the framers meant with reference to this issue are not unquestionable and subject to debate. This is why the Supreme Court must get involved to resolve the issue.
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Old 12-04-2008, 10:09 AM
 
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Why doesnt obama just get this over with and show him the documents and shut down the case?
Are you kidding? Why would he want to do that? This has been one of the all time greatest diversions in the history of politics. It's kept a lot of mischief makers busy spinning their wheels. A brilliant strategy, IMO.
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Old 12-04-2008, 10:16 AM
 
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Are you kidding? Why would he want to do that? This has been one of the all time greatest diversions in the history of politics. It's kept a lot of mischief makers busy spinning their wheels. A brilliant strategy, IMO.


look, If it is true then obama does not want it to come out while he is potus. that shall create a Constitutional crisis and neither biden nor obama shall be allowed to remain in office, as neither one should have ever been elected.

the people faith in goverment shall be gone and we could see that the federal goverment might not exist if something like this came to pass. secession and other consequences could also happen, and having a weak goverment would not be very helpful at all during that time.
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Old 12-04-2008, 10:22 AM
 
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Still waiting for your response to Buchanan, Arthur, Wilson, and Hoover, and how they are any different from Obama.
What would you say if you learned that no one (at the time these past presidents were elected and served) ever questioned whether these men were eligible? If they had, like millions are questioning Obama's eligibility, these men would not have been eligible. But, their eligibility status was never questioned...

In the case of Chester Arthur, Arthur had a cloud over him regarding his "Natural Born Citizen" status. Some believed he was born in Canada! However, it could never be proven because he had no birth records. (Back then birth records were often scant ...and not official as we know them to be today.)
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