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And factories are on the East. Not on the West Ukraine.
Will Europe build more factories? New positions of employment? Where people will work and earn their money? Do you have any plan?
Peoples earns 200,300-500 dollars per month at these factories. Many of them have time-worn machinery. I'm afraid, that these plants will be closed in the next 20-30 years in any way. And I can say the same about many factories in Russia too. There are exceptions, of course.
Question;
Why do these roaches keep on creeping into Eastern Ukraine and then cry foul when they end up beaten up or as in this case - taken hostage. Don't they get it they are not welcome there?
wonder who will take over the role of Lenin, Trotsky and Stalin later.
If history's a guide there's always somebody ready to take the mantle..........given the opportunities and the time. Let's look at the situation. I'd think most here believe it's not an enticing one for peace, love and undertanding right now. People are digging in. Revolutions always start that way. Also the roads to hell get built this way. Are the 3 dead recently a harbinger of more and more to come. You guys tell me.
Peoples earns 200,300-500 dollars per month at these factories. :
Many people in countries like Italy earn not more than €1,000 per month which may be somewhat equivalent to $500 per month in Ukraine on a cost-of-living basis.
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Many of them have time-worn machinery. I'm afraid, that these plants will be closed in the next 20-30 years in any way. And I can say the same about many factories in Russia too. There are exceptions, of course.
Many factories throughout the US and Europe have closed over the past 20-30 years and the same can be said of them over the next 20-30 years, albeit in many cases at a different level of technology, efficiency and consumer appeal. The US, for example, has much time-worn infrastructure, like bridges and electricity grids, and will require trillions in investment over the next 20-30 years.
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Russia will grab off what it can regardless of UN resolutions.
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And the US will grab off whatever it can regardless of any resolutions.
Yes to both.
I have the impression that global mafia west (US/EU/IMF) and global mafia east (Russia) have a tacit pact to partition Ukraine, sort of reminiscent of the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact to dismember Poland, and it seems that the only question now is whether it will be only de facto or also de jure, and it seems that they have tacitly agreed to duke it out "nicely" to determine how far west Russia can hold sway, say Odessa and eastern Moldova, and possibly whether Kiev will be a split city, like Berlin or Jerusalem, or whether Russia will be confined to the three eastern oblasts, plus Crimea of course, and who will bear the costs of managing (or mismanaging as the case may be) the respective territories, de facto and de jure.
They are duking it out "nicely" because the difference between mafia and government is that government rules in the name of legality. Hence the propaganda on both sides.
The risk, of course, is that the gloves come off. But I don't think that it would be in anybody's interest, on balance, but naturally there could be a few crazies on either side or both. Let's hope not.
Good Luck!
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