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Are you implying that all Afghans have their biometric data submitted back in Kabul, that can be now "transferred" to US?
No, but I am implying/stating:
"all Afghans that have had their biometric data recorded in Kabul can expect that the US will have access to it within the US and outside".
People who have been working with the US as translators etc will have had their biometric data recorded.
I recognize that English may not be your first language and have been cutting you a break but in this case placement of the word "that" in the sentence changes the meaning entirely.
"all Afghans that have had their biometric data recorded in Kabul can expect that the US will have access to it within the US and outside".
People who have been working with the US as translators etc will have had their biometric data recorded.
I recognize that English may not be your first language and have been cutting you a break but in this case placement of the word "that" in the sentence changes the meaning entirely.
Since English is your first language, may be ( just may be) you can comprehend what you are reading here in your native tongue?
1. "A biometric system containing the personal information of millions of Afghans is sparking concern among human rights advocates who worry it could be used by the Taliban to identify and potentially harm people who worked with the U.S.-backed Afghan government or international organizations that promoted women’s rights.
The system, which was created by the United States more than 15 years ago and eventually shared in part with the Afghan government, contains millions of fingerprints, iris scans and face photos of Afghan people who had their biometric data collected by U.S. and coalition forces, who were assigned to enroll as many people as possible.
It originally was meant to contribute to a global effort to identify and track terrorists, by building a database of fingerprints and other identifiers that could be used to track down the source of attacks."
2. "If the Taliban do access the U.S.-created datasets as they assume power over Afghanistan and are able to sync them with biometric collection devices, human rights advocates say the data could be curated to create targeted lists of people who worked with coalition forces or international human rights groups in any capacity.Last week, 36 civil society organizations signed a joint letter calling on governments, aid organizations and private contractors that created databases in Afghanistan to take immediate action to shut them down and erase them."
3. "The U.S.-led biometrics collection project in Afghanistan was so sprawling, however, that one Afghanistan War veteran said it may not be of much use. Without people who are trained in how to narrow the datasets, it would be very difficult to make use of them, according to the veteran, who worked on U.S. biometrics collection in Afghanistan and asked to remain anonymous to protect his security."
The US army’s Biometrics Task Force in Afghanistan, announced a goal to gather biometric data on 80 per cent of Afghanistan’s estimated 25 million citizens, according to investigative reporter Annie Jacobsen, who pointed this out in her recent book First Platoon.
“The two-year goal set by the Defence Department was 21 million sets of fingerprints, iris scans, and in some cases DNA, starting with all military-age males. By the fall of 2011, the Defence Department had biometric data on more than 2 million people in Afghanistan. Data it had uploaded into its proprietary ABIS database,†Ms Jacobsen wrote in her book."
Question; do you think all these data files were transferred to US ( we are talking about 2 million cases here per the information above.)
"No" you might say, "but the biometric data of people who worked directly for US/coalition forces was collected and shared with the US gov ( whatever security department that might be.)
However if it were the case, then American soldiers guarding the airport wouldn't have any problems identifying people whom they WANTED to be on the planes on their way to US, no?
Instead, we saw this man literally crying in desperation ;
Therefore I can logically assume that only very LIMITED BIOMETRIC DATA of certain Afghans was ever transferred to the US. That is of people most likely that were already incarcerated on the terrorism charges earlier, and considered a serious threat. That's how their biometric data could be collected and passed to the US security departments. And if these specific people would try to make it to any western country (US including,) then yes, their biometric data can be checked upon the arrival.
Likewise, the biometric data of the interpreters that had access to the most sensitive information COULD HAVE BEEN transferred to US ( just a guess.)
As for the rest - THEIR biometric data remained in Afghanistan, where it was abandoned by retreating American forces to Taliban.
"The Taliban has mobilized a special unit, called Al Isha, to hunt down Afghans who helped US and allied forces — and it’s using US equipment and data to do it.
Nawazuddin Haqqani, one of the brigade commanders over the Al Isha unit, bragged in an interview with Zenger News that his unit is using US-made hand-held scanners to tap into a massive US-built biometric database and positively identify any person who helped the NATO allies or worked with Indian intelligence. Afghans who try to deny or minimize their role will find themselves contradicted by the detailed computer records that the US left behind in its frenzied withdrawal"
And yes, Taliban knows how to use this data and equipment ( which was left behind for them as well by the way.)
“The risks posed by the development of biometric databases in Afghanistan were starkly illustrated when local journalists reported in 2016 and 2017 that Taliban insurgents were stopping buses and using biometric scanners to identify and execute any passengers who were determined to be security force members,†the report noted.
In one such bus ambush, the Taliban took 200 passengers hostage, used government biometric systems to look for security force members and executed 10 people on the spot, according to a local news report from Afghanistan in 2016."
So keeping all this in mind, can you distinguish now between the white noise of "checking the biometric data recorded in Kabul" and what it's REALLY all about?
I didn't read all of the above post because I don't know what it has to do with your original claim of 500 Afghans at Fort McCoy "disappearing into thin air" and much less what it has to do with Russia.
When you find or figure out what happened to the 500 be sure to let us know.
Nice photos!
The leaves are only showing the first signs of color here in DC.
Was in Savannah, Ga, at Thanksgiving a couple of years ago, and the leaves were still not at full color.
Nice photos!
The leaves are only showing the first signs of color here in DC.
Was in Savannah, Ga, at Thanksgiving a couple of years ago, and the leaves were still not at full color.
Russia has VERY DISTINCT four seasons.
In US, ( at least here in the Northern part) "fall" and "spring" last two weeks only it seems)))
You go straight from summer clothes to the winter jackets.
*Note to those who travel to Russia;
over there you actually need the semi-seasonal clothing, unlike here.
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