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[Maksim_Frolov]

If the jet was shot down, then the wreckage and eyewitness accounts should prove this. If no information is received, then most likely this is really a fire in the engine.

[erasure]

Originally Posted by Maksim_Frolov

If the jet was shot down, then the wreckage and eyewitness accounts should prove this. If no information is received, then most likely this is really a fire in the engine.

Well what did you see in that video?
What's your opinion of it?

[Maksim_Frolov]

Originally Posted by erasure

Well what did you see in that video?
What's your opinion of it?

It's fire. I don't know.

But most likely an air defense missile at night should have left a mark. The video does not have a moment of ignition, but people should have seen it if they managed to shoot it on a smartphone. But maybe this video is fake. All official services (from Iran, Ukraine and Russian official propaganda) say that it was a fire in the engine.

[Maksim_Frolov]

From Telegram (one of the opinions):

"Серьезный специалист по авиационной безопасности, просмотрев все что есть на данный час в открытых источниках информации, ожидаемо заявляет: "слишком мало данных даже для предварительных выводов".

Но! Между иранским ракетным ударом и катастрофой промежуток несколько часов - версию исключить

Работа иранских ПВО - версию исключить.

Двигатель горел - теракт исключить.

Вполне возможно, что сбой в сложнейшей автоматике Боинга, со множеством "прошивок", связан со всей этой милитаризированной катавасией. И двигатель мог загореться из-за неправильно поданных компьютерами команд. Но это всего лишь домыслы, которые нас просили не публиковать (дескать, пока об этом говорить несерьезно), но мы не послушались. Потому что первые две идиотских версии стремительно раскручиваются разного рода пропагандистами."

Translate: It's not missile.
The CNN also does not write anything about a missile (it would be very beneficial for them, but they don't write).
At the moment, it looks like it's an engine. But the Boeing and an fire engine... I do not know. It’s strange.

[Maksim_Frolov]

As I understand it, the only source about the attack of air defense is a tweet (and only one tweet) of the Palestinian edition of Al-Hadat:



https://i.ibb.co/j5cZLpY/photo-2020-01-08-09-38-36.jpg


Incomprehensible source.

[Maksim_Frolov]

US and Russia stop civilian flights over the territory of Iran, Iraq, the Persian Gulf.

[Maksim_Frolov]

It just leave this photo here




https://i.ibb.co/nCQ4HBW/photo-2020-01-08-10-49-37.jpg



https://i.ibb.co/8gjbJ90/photo-2020-01-08-10-49-36.jpg



https://i.ibb.co/60tjpWX/photo-2020-01-08-10-49-35.jpg

[Maksim_Frolov]

The Ukrainian embassy in Iran removed information that the disaster could NOT be a terrorist attack from the morning news:


https://i.ibb.co/V35hjvC/photo-2020-01-08-12-39-29.jpg

iran.mfa.gov.ua/ua/press-center/news/76852-shhodo-aviakatastrofi-litaka-mau-shho-vikonuvav-rejs-ps752

[Maksim_Frolov]

Originally Posted by Maksim_Frolov

https://i.ibb.co/nCQ4HBW/photo-2020-01-08-10-49-37.jpg

But in normal quality there are no traces:


https://newsmaker.md/wp-content/uplo...0/01/large.jpg

[Scrat335]

Originally Posted by Maksim_Frolov

But in normal quality there are no traces:


https://newsmaker.md/wp-content/uplo...0/01/large.jpg

I see the same patterns of holes in the fuselage in both pictures. A pattern of 4 below the window. It could be shrapnel from a missile or from a disintegrating engine.

We all remember the Malaysian plane shot down in 2014. The warhead left a distinct pattern, those holes seem more random. The only other thing it might be is something like a Shilka spraying bullets, the pattern is more random. Shilkas use tracers though and I see none in the videos.